Piano Questions

“I need a piano that’s easy to manoeuver, has a good sound, and is safe to store”

Dear Graham,

At the moment we are exploring all options , as you would appreciate starting in this new adventure money is tight ! so the choice has to be right.

The piano you recommended the Classenti CDP1 seems a great choice, as it is not fussy with all the extras that are not required and i am particularly impressed
with the sound output.

I have also chatted with the pianist of another local choir and they use a stage piano – the reasons given easy to manoeuver, good sound, and safe to store.

I really value your opinion, as you obviously know your pianos- with great passion!! could this be another way to go? if so what do you recommend??.

Thanks Graham,

Kind Regards,

Andrew..

Reply/ Hi Andrew

If you need to move the piano frequently and store
it away, then a stage piano would be more suitable
for you.

The Classenti P1 is the one I recommend.

The P1 is similar to the CDP1, but it’s smaller,
and easily portable.

You can read more about it here:
www.ukpianos.co.uk/classenti-p1-portable-piano

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

Graham Howard, Piano Adviser

Send me an email if you have any questions or need advice: grahamhoward@ukpianos.co.uk
Or call 020 8367 5107

 

“Does the Classenti CDP1 and CDP2 allow interaction with any piano tuition PC software?”

Hi Graham,

I have a quick question regarding learning to play the piano using a digital
piano, specifically either the Classenti CDP2 or CDP1.

With a MIDI interface do either of the above pianos allow interaction with any
piano tuition PC software?
I’m an adult learner (real beginner) who is just starting out and will soon be
looking for either one of the above pianos as a first time buy. If so, can you
recommend a good software program for beginners tuition on notes and scales?

Many thanks,

Steve

Reply/ Hi Steve

Both the Classenti CDP1 and CDP2 have MIDI
IN/OUT connections. This allows you to connect
directly to your computer.

There is a number of online piano courses. Some
good, some not so good…

The most comprehensive – and easiest to follow –
online piano course is the ‘Rocket Piano’ by
Ruth Searle.

… This is the best online course by far. It’s
packed full of really useful tips and simple
lessons.

I can confidently recommend it to you.

You can find out more about here:
www.ukpianos.co.uk/rocket-piano-online-course1

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“Differences between P1 and CDP1”

Hi Graham,

Many thanks for this – I heard that you were ‘on holiday’ so I appreciate your time in
replying.

One last question.  I have listened to some more Classenti videos and found a much nicer
sound – perhaps it was that particular video.  I will consider buying either the
Classenti P1 bundle, or the CDP1 bundle.  There is about one hundred pounds difference.
Please could you tell me what the main differences are in sound quality, portability,
general utility for a beginner, and resale value?  Thank you.

Zoe.

Reply/ Hi Zoe

I’m on holiday. Sort of…

I get up at 5.30 am and do some emails before
breakfast. Then I can enjoy the rest of the day.

The Classenti CDP1 has a slightly more realistic
sound than the P1…

This is due to the extra 10 watts from the speakers.
And also the position of the speakers.

The P1 is more portable. Although it’s heavy, it’s
much easier to take apart and move around.

For a beginner, either piano would be ideal.

The resale value is good on both. The CDP1 is
more popular, so you would get slightly more
for it second hand.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“Concerned about the installation”

Graham

Still want to buy a Classenti CDP2 piano, but concerned about the
installation.

Do you provide an assembly, installation and setup service?  If so,  how
much is this?

Regards, Patricia

Reply/ Hi Patricia

Yes we do offer a set up and installation.

Where do you live?

By the way, the Classenti CDP2 is very easy to
put together…

In fact, it’s far less hassle than putting
together a simple cabinet from Ikea…

Should take you about 15 minutes max.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“Is there some history here – perhaps to do with the fact that Classenti don’t market through showrooms?”

Hi Graham:

We spoke on the phone about 10 days ago. I mentioned coming to the showroom
to try out a Classenti CDP2.

I asked around locally whether anyone owned one, so that I could do a bit of
research. I got a surprising phone call from a piano showroom in Birmingham
(I think Crafthouse or colbeck?, on the Chester Road near the M6): the guy
said whatever I did, do NOT get a Classenti. I asked why, and he said it’s
just not a good piano.

Question 1: Is there some history here – perhaps to do with the fact that
Classenti don’t market through showrooms? The showrooms can then argue that
they CHOOSE not to stock them because they’re ‘not good pianos’ etc. You
speak quite well of Classenti CDP2 in your book. Why do you think these
people might want to put me off  buying one

Question 2: Among alternatives in a similar price range, just under the
thousand mark, the two that strike me as possibles are Yamaha CLP320 and
Roland RP201. Are they worth that little extra? I want something that gives
me a decent ‘body’ of sound in Beethoven, Brahms and co.

Question 3: The journey to Enfield from here (Evesham, Worcs) is 3 hours
plus from station to station, and then a good bit of a walk from Enfield
Town. Or would via Southbury be better?

Sorry to plague you with so many questions – I ‘d appreciate it if during
the next few days you could find the time to advise me.

Yours sincerely, David

Reply/

Hi David

It’s absolutely true that if a shop doesn’t
stock – or cannot get supply of – a particular
brand (especially if they get asked about it
a lot), then they will say negative things about
that brand…

It’s totally unprofessional, of course, but
that’s what often happens.

This is also true if you mention to them that
you’ve seen a lower price online for a piano
they’ve got in their showroom…

They’ll do everything in their power to put
you off buying online. I could list all their
reasons here… but that would take all
afternoon, and probably bore you.

There is always a war between music shops and
online sellers. And always an argument about
which brands are the best…

Anyway, I think I’ve rambled enough about that.

The Roland RP201 just has too light a touch.

The Yamaha CLP320 is better, also has a nicer,
warmer sound, but, again, the touch is on the
light side.

We are 5 minutes walk from Enfield Town station.
And 15 minutes walk from Southbury station.

It would be good to see you in our showroom if
you can find time to come down.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

Further comments/

Thanks for answering so comprehensively.

For me, it gets to look like the Classenti CDP2, doesn’t it.

Logistically I need to try to work my elder daughter into the visit somehow,
as she’s looking to buy something more in the YDP range; but she commutes in
the week from Tooting from Hatfield would you believe, so I’m not too
confident she’ll want to use a Saturday to do a similar journey. But I’m
seeing her this w/end, and I’ll ask her. Either way, I’ll be in touch soon
to arrange a time when I can come to you and have a chance to try the
Classenti out.

Thanks again for so helpful a reply, David

 

“Do you know the digital sampling source for their grand piano sound?”

Hi Graham,

I’m really intrigued with that I’ve seen about the CDP2 Classenti model.

I play mostly classical- space and budget are crucial. The most
important thing to me is touch and sound (and for $1,400) it seems almost
too good to be true.

1.) Do you know the digital sampling source for thier grand piano sound?
I’ve owned a Steinway and am particular to that big American/European sound
vs. the Japanese Yamaha tone.

2.) Being state-side (Connecticut)- where’s the best place to purchase this
model?

Thanks! Great book, by the way, very informative.

Jason

Reply/ Hi Jason

I’m not sure which piano Classenti used to sample
their sound.

But judging from the piano’s rich, deep, sonorous
tone, it’s likely that they used a mixture of a Steinway
and Bechstein concert grand.

I’m not sure where to purchase a Classenti in
the United States.

Try contacting Classenti directly: info@classenti.com

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“Classenti CDP1 on Hire For 6 Months Scheme?”

We are considering your “hire for 6mths and buy” scheme as a good option.  The classenti sounds impressive – but unlike the Yamaha, there doesnt seem to be any stockists in this area of the country, (north west – Lancashire)  where we  could go and view/try it.

One of the comments I have come across on a piano review site (pianoreviews.org) which concerned me about the CDP1, was the following -it  was “the una corda is much too sensitive so I cant soften the melody at selected times”. Could you explain this to me, as my daughter doesn’t seem to have a clue.

Also I note that it has no sliding key cover although a throw over cover does come with the “bundle”.  However we have a perfectly good and antique piano stool that she uses with our upright now, so I am reluctant to purchase another. I think it would go nicely with the cherry classenti (Does the keyboard height differ on a digital from an acoustic upright?)

For a 10yr old, would it be worth going that bit further on the better model CDP2 or the Yamaha CLP320? (Bearing in mind she will probably keep going until the end of high school which will be about grade 6 – and then it would be up to her depending on which direction she wanted to go – as to if she continued)
If you can find your way to answering these queries I would be most grateful.

Regards
Elaine

Reply/

Hi Elaine

The ‘Una Corda’ pedal is the left one out of
the three.

This pedal might be used when you want to play
a very quiet section of music (in musical terms
it’s ‘ppp’).

When you press the pedal down you get a softer
sound.

On an upright piano the change of volume is
barely noticeable.

On a grand piano it shifts the keyboard to the
right. This means the hammer will strike 2
strings instead of 3 in the treble, and 1
instead of 2 in the bass. It’s more effective
on a grand piano.

Digital pianos try to emulate a real piano.
But with the Classenti it’s a little overdone…

The pedal works fine, it just tends to reduce
the volume level a little more than normal.

This pedal is rarely used anyway. At least
not until grade 6 and above.

For a 10 year old I would go with the Classenti
CDP1. This piano will see your daughter up
to at least grade 7 anyway.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

“What is today’s equivalent of the Casio AP80?”

Good Afternoon Graham

I wonder whether we could trouble you for some advice please.

We are looking for a piano to replace the one our daughter currently uses at
her grandparents; it’s a Casio AP-80. We’re after something similar as she
not only enjoys playing the piano (she’s currently studying for her Grade 1)
but also playing with all the ‘bells and whistles’, different instruments,
songs, recording playback, etc. that this particular digital piano offers. I
believe this model has now been replaced, and with our budget of £500 to
£1000 (preferably mid range), we’d be most grateful for any suggestions you
may have for something similar amongst the bewildering range of digital
pianos available.

Any assistance very much appreciated.

Kind regards

Andy

Reply/ Hi Andy

The Casio AP80 was Casio’s very best piano about
3-4 years ago.

Today’s equivalent is the Casio AP620. The AP620
has similar features, but the technology is
up-to-date, and more advanced.

 

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

Graham Howard, Piano Adviser

Send me an email if you have any questions or need advice: grahamhoward@ukpianos.co.uk
Or call 020 8367 5107

 

“Casio PX7 – what is your view?”

I am looking to buy a digital piano so I can practise without disturbing the
whole house, I also teach sometimes at home and was wondering on your view
on the Casio Previa range (specifically I have the chance of a limited
edition PX-7WE)  Is there the opportunity for dynamics (the technology
scares me so please excuse my ignorance!)

Any advise you are able to give would be much appreciated to an owner of a
100 year old ivory keyed piano!

Wendy Hill

Reply/ Hi Wendy

The Casio PX7 is surely Casio’s best ever piano.

I love the silky smooth feel to the keys. And
the sound is pretty good too.

Too bad it’s a limited edition!

You can find out more about the PX7 here:
www.ukpianos.co.uk/casio-px7

 

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“Casio PX7 or PX730?”

Hi Graham,

I read the whole book. It’s really
informative especially for parents like us sourcing
piano for kids yet can’t play it ourselves. Now at least we know what to look for. Do
keep up yr good work and I believe yr advises have helped many like us.

Btw, px7 is a limited edition white colour model and really looked good, I may not
mind getting as a 2nd unit as I’ve 3 kids practising. Heard it’s better than px730. Would u
recommend? Or is px830 much more superior in performance in comparison. Otherwise, I’ll
forego.

Tks & Best rgds
Emma

Reply/ Hi Emma

I really like the Casio PX7.

The synthetic ivory keys make it feel more like
a real piano. It’s actually a lot better than
all other Casio models.

I would go with the PX7.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

“We have seen a lovely looking Bentley digital piano. Is it a good make?”

We are looking to buy a digital piano for our daughter who is about to take her piano grade one. We have
seen a lovely looking bentley digital piano–but have no idea whether this is a good make or not. It sounds ok to
us. Would you recommend this make?

We saw it in Minns Music POOLE DORSET. Lovely looking digital piano in black ebony cabinet—- retailing at £599
reduced cos ex display model from £800.  Sounds fine to me touch sensitive etc. Our daughter about to take
grade one so we need to get something. The trad pianos we have seen and like the sound from are in the
£800.—£1000  range second hand. This seemed like a good option as the sound seemed ok. Our concern is that
we could not find any inof or reviews of this make anywhere on the web. Minns Music is a branch of i”ntermusic” if
that means anything to you.
Is it safer to go with the yamaha—what would you recommend at this £600 budget? Again many many thanks for your
time. Katie Mansbridge

Reply/ Hi Katie

I tried the Bentley digital piano out recently, but was not impressed.

I really didn’t like the feel of the keys at all. And the sound was not
very realistic…

For around £500-£600 you can get a far better digital piano.

My recommendation is the Yamaha YDP140 (it is not available in
polished ebony though).

You can read more about it here:
www.ukpianos.co.uk/yamaha-ydp140

My second recommendation is the Classenti CDP1 PE. This piano
is available in polished ebony and sells for under £700. This has a lovely
sound and the touch is very close to a real piano — you will be
much happier owning this piano.

You can read more about it here:
www.ukpianos.co.uk/classenti-cdp1

You can call me on 020 8367 2080 if you would like more info.

Yours pianistically,
Graham Howard
UK Pianos

 

Graham Howard, Piano Adviser

Send me an email if you have any questions or need advice: grahamhoward@ukpianos.co.uk
Or call 020 8367 5107

“Which has quieter action: Yamaha or Roland?”

Hi Graham

Thank you for writing.  I should perhaps have let you know how very grateful
I am to have been able to download your informed technical comparison of
digital pianos!  It is extremely well done, as I’m sure many others have
remarked.

I have a 6 year old Yamaha Clavinova which I intend to replace.  The keys
now make far too much noise as I play and it spoils my classical music.  I
am wondering if the newer Clavinovas, CLP320 say, would age in exactly the
same way or if there has been an improvement.  But maybe that isn’t
something you have been able to determine because only time will tell?

So although I was thinking of getting a new digital, maybe I should instead
buy a Yamaha piano.  Or perhaps the Roland digital would be a better
proposition and retain the “soundless note mechanism quality” better than a
Yamaha?

I would very much appreciate any thoughts you have on this and thank you
again for writing to me!

Are you aware that notes become very noisy after a time (independent of the
music)?  Is it a problem that has been resolved in more recent models?

I would welcome information directly on that problem

Best wishes,

Val

Pine Mountain, Queensland

Reply/ Hi Val

The build quality is similar on both Yamaha and
Roland pianos. It is possible that the plastic
inside the mechanism is showing signs of wear
and tear. This can happen if the piano has been
played a lot.

A current model should age in the same way as
a 6 year old model.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“The noise of the keyboard drives me to distraction”

Dear Graham,

I own a Clavinova CLP811 about 10 years old. The noise of the keyboard drives me to distraction. The only relief is to use noise cancelling head phones which also provide realistic piano sound. I seldom use anything other than the grand piano setting. I have several questions:
1 .Can the keyboard noise be ameliorated?
2. Can one buy an electronic piano which has ONLY a piano sound and without key board noise? If yes,who makes it and how much does it cost?
I have downloaded your book but can not now find it in my computer.If you can answer my questions I shall not need to (find it). Thank you for you message and my kind regards,
Henry.

Reply/ Hi Henry

All digital pianos make some degree of keyboard
noise. Nothing can be done about this.

In fact, all acoustic pianos make a keyboard noise.
But you don’t hear this so much from an acoustic
piano because the sound covers it up.

The older digital pianos were particularly noisy –
as you have discovered with your Yamaha. Mostly
they’re much better now with the exception of the
cheap digital pianos which still have this problem.

Would you like to buy a piano from me?
I can do a good deal for you.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“I wonder how wooden components in keyboard mechanisms will affect the piano in the long run”

Hello Graham,

First, I want to thank you for posting all the information about the different digital pianos that are out there.
One of the more important aspects I would not have even thought about was your comment about all the
(higher end) models they are coming out with now.  They seem to have some wooden components now
and as you mentioned, I wonder how this will affect the piano in the long run.  Because one of the good
things about digitals is that they do not need tuning and this could change things in the future.

Janet

 

“What is the weak point of the kawai ca63?”

Question/

I live in Romania.
I have 41 years and started playing the piano at 11.

What are the weak point of the kawai ca63?
For the same price, what is comparable or better?
Are the improvement in comparaison with the CA18 valuable for the  difference of price?

thanks

Benzekri

Reply/ Hi Benzekri

The Kawai CA63 is a very nice piano. But, I don’t
like the bouncy feeling of the keys when they
return.

The piano I recommend is the Yamaha CLP340.

The CLP340 has a lovely feel… its synthetic ivory
keys feel just like tickling the ivories of an old-
fashioned Bechstein grand. It makes me want to play
more and more.

The sound is also crystal clear. I would describe
it as vibrant, rich, deep, and very close to a
concert grand piano.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

Further Question/

Thanks for the answer. My first preocupation is the mechanism.
Maybe it is because the kawai’s mechanism ‘look’ like a piano mechanism.

What do you think about that?

Reply/ Hi Benzekri

Yes, the Kawai’s mechanism does look like and performs
in a similar way to a real piano mechanism. But, I’m
concerned that having a wood action in a digital piano
could cause problems later…

For instance, digital pianos are known to withstand
heat sources a lot better than acoustic pianos. This
is because there ISN’T wood inside the piano…

Adding wood to the mechanism and keys could create
problems of loose or sticky notes.

What’s more, I see it as a risky purchase… if
digital piano manufacturers decide that it really
wasn’t a great idea to put wood in a digital piano,
they will revert to plastic and metal mechanisms.

This would cause a mass shortage of parts for the
wooden mechanism.

Lots to think about here…

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

Further Question/

Yes, but acoustics pianos don’t have major problems after years and years…
Do you think the more important is the presence of wood?

Thanks Benzekri

Hi Benzekri

Acoustic pianos that are situated next to a radiator or
other heat source, or near an open-plan kitchen, or
in a conservatory do suffer from a number of problems.

These could be: Loose tuning pins, wobbly hammers,
cracked soundboard, cracked bridge, sticky keys,
rusty strings, sluggish hammers and on and on…

Digital pianos don’t usually have a problem with heat,
only condensation…

My concern is that people will put their digital
pianos close to a heat source or steam from the
kithen, and their wooden mechanism and/or keys
might suffer from being sticky, sluggish or loose.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“Is set-off an improvement?”

Hello,

Yes I have a question regarding “set-off” and another regarding “wooden keys”

Although you say that “set-off” is something not to go for, I have read other reviews
that say it is a great improvement. So I am a little bit confused about that.

Regarding “wooden keys”, you say wooden keys do not make any difference at all, but
I also read that they do. So confused again with this matter.

Regards,
David

Reply/ Hi David

The set-off on an acoustic piano is only
noticeable when you press down the key
very slowly…

On the latest, mid to high end digital pianos
from Yamaha, Roland and Kawai it is too
sensitive and overdone.

This results in an awkward, lumpy feel to
the keys which is very off-putting.

Wooden keys do feel very slightly heavier.
But it’s hardly noticeable. The only benefit
is physcological.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

Hi

The book was really useful, thanks.
Just one question please – we are in the
process of converting a bedroom into a room for my digital piano and we were
wondering if the flooring would affect the piano. Would either carpet or
laminate be detrimental to the sound?

Sue

Reply/ Hi Sue

The type of flooring wouldn’t be detrimental
to the sound…

But the sound would change depending on the
type of surface; hard or soft wood, carpeted,
tiled, rugs, etc.

A carpeted floor would soak up some of the
sound. This would make the sound quieter. It
would also take a little of the brightness
away.

A hard wood floor would amplify the sound…
It would also add brilliance.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

Graham Howard, Piano Adviser

Send me an email if you have any questions or need advice: grahamhoward@ukpianos.co.uk
Or call 020 8367 5107

Secondhand Yamaha or Techinics?

Hello Graham,

Thanks for your Free Piano Guide, which has proved invaluable as a novice looking to
buy a piano for my children.

I note you recommend not buying anything second hand over 5 years of age, but I’ve
seen this Yamaha Clavinova CL-950 on ebay (which I believe is circa 10 yrs old).

It seems to tick all the boxes you’ve mentioned. Guess I want some final reassurance
that it is a suitable choice given it is on sale for £500+.

Any further help or words of wisdom very welcome.

Thanks,

Mark

Reply/ Hi Mark

The CLP950 is OK, but not nearly as good as
the current models, of course. But for someone
learning it will be fine.

I recommend getting the piano checked out
before you buy it. Just in case it’s in need of
any repairs.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

Resources:  |  Which digital piano to buy

Hello Graham Howard,

What a lovely site you made, thanks for all the advises I got from your book
for buyers of a dgp!
Now- I found this used Yamaha CLP 930 Clavinova  for sale in a city fairly
close to me:

I shall here do my best to translate the salestext from danish:
“Electric piano, darkwood, in very fine condition. 3 pedals and a lot of
functions, midi in/out- to be connected to PC. 88 weighted hammers -* 4-5
hammers are hanging and need to be fixed* (presumed expence 50-70 £).
Bought as new in 2001 for the sum of 1150 £, receit intact. Weighs 50 kg.”

Now – I made a bid on this of 240 £, and the seller accepted it.

I need a dgp for myself and my 10 year old boy, who has been taking lessons
for three years now.

Do you think the hammers can be fixed? Is there anyway I can test this- if I
go out to see it?

From what I read in your advises, I think this CLP-930 covers what we need.
I know it is out of production now, but I think it should be possible to
send it to service- since it´s a Yamaha.

The sales text says that it is 5 years old, not really used and in perfect
condition.
I have surfed around to get info about it, I think it is an ok dgp.This
model is also out of production, but I read somewhere on the internet, that
Panasonic will service Technics dgps for some years from now. Is´nt it
reasonable to believe that the local musicstore will take it in for service,
if something need to be fixed with it in the future?

I like the design of this model. You do not mention any of the Technic´s
models in your book, so what I am concerned about is how the hammers a
weighted on this model. Do you know? Do you happen to know of any problems
with this model?

I like this one over the cpl-930, but the price is also more than the
double.

And I am on a single mother´s budget….

Hope you can help me out on my concerns

And again, thank you for making a fantastic site of lovely advises. I think
you´re a pretty cool guy!

Happy new year!

Louisa from Denmark

Reply/ Hi Louisa

Both the Yamaha CLP-930 and Technics SX-PX663 are
very old digital pianos.

They were really good pianos when they were made.
But you can find much more realistic pianos today…

Technology has advanced quite a lot since these
pianos were produced.

You have to be careful when buying a
secondhand digital piano…

Repairs can be very costly on secondhand
pianos. And that’s if the parts are still
available.

I advise going for a brand new digital piano.
Choose from any one of these models:

Yamaha YDP140
Classenti CDP1
Kawai CL25

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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“How much do these second hand Yamaha digital pianos cost?”

Graham, thank you for providing such a great service. Please can you tell me roughly
how much these Yamaha models would cost to buy second-hand (assuming perfect
working order and good condition): CLP430, CLP440, CLP470, CLP480. I appreciate
it’s currently quite rare to find these models available second-hand. Thanks for your time.

Tom

Reply/ Hi Tom

We don’t have any of these second-hand
at the moment.

But, if some came up, then you could expect
them to be about 20-25% off the new price
if you buy from a shop… and maybe 30%-
40% off if you buy privately.

Bear in mind, if you buy privately you don’t
get any guarantee.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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Clavinova CVP8 – good for a beginner?

I have seen a CLAVINOVA CVP 8 for sale and wonder if this might be a good
place for a beginier to start?

I can’t find any reviews anywhere so wonder if can tell me anything about
this model?

I guess it must be quite old..?

Kind regards

John

Reply/ Hi John

The Yamaha CVP8 was made in the year 2000.
A digital piano that’s 9 years old is likely
to be in need of a full service, and possible
replacement parts (if you can get them).

I advise you to go for something brand new.
I know the cost is a lot higher, but you get
the peace of mind of a long guarantee.

Technology has advanced a lot since the year
2000. So modern digital pianos offer a much
more realistic sound, and touch.

If you want to keep your budget as low as
possible then I recommend either the Yamaha
YDP140, or the Classenti CDP1.

You can read more about these pianos here:

https://www.ukpianos.co.uk/classenti-cdp1.html

https://www.ukpianos.co.uk/yamaha-ydp140.html

Yours pianistically,
Graham Howard
UK Pianos

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Is a second-hand Yamaha CLP 820 for the sum of £425.00 a good buy?

I wonder if you can advise me as to wether this is a good buy or not, I have
negotiated a second-hand Yamaha CLP 820 for the sum of £425.00. It appears
in good condition and the owner says it was bought new but rarely used and
has basically been an item of furniture in their front room since bought.

We are purchasing it for my daughter and myself to hopefully learn on, my
sister-in-law is a piano teacher and thinks it sounds ok but has no
experience of buying second-hand and we are complete novices!

I wonder if you would be so good as to advise us as to how old this model
could be, if the price being looked for is good value and if there are any
common problems that we should be aware of when purchasing this model
second-hand?

We would really value your advice!

Many thanks!

Regards,

Jill

Reply/ Hi Jill

The Yamaha CLP820 is a mid range CLP.
not sure of the age, but it’s more than
5 years.

Today’s new price would be well over £1,000, so
,providing it is in good condition then it
would be a good purchase.

There is a series of simple tests you can do
on a secondhand digital piano yourself. Here’s
some of the main ones:

1) Play every note to make sure they sound

2) Check all pedals work

3) Test every button on the control panel

4) Play some chords around the centre of the piano
and listen for any unusual sounds

5) Check the volume button doesn’t make a crackling
noise when turned up, and down

6) Turn the sound completely off. Then play the keys.
If they are very rattly then there could be some wear
and tear.

7) Check the side to side movement of the keys. It
shouldn’t be excessive

8) Play each key to make sure none stick down, or
return slowly.

Yours pianistically,
Graham Howard
UK Pianos

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How does the KR650 compare with a present day digital piano?

Hi Graham. Congratulations on writing a really useful primer for digital pianos. I have a Roland KR650 which I bought secondhand
about 8 years ago. I realise that it won’t go on for ever as I think it dates back to the 1990’s. When I replace it I would be
happy with far fewer facilities, but something which feels even more like an acoustic piano which I also play. In your opinion,
how does the KR650 compare with a present day digital piano? In which  area does it’s performance suffer from obselete technology?

Am I right in thinking that it doesn’t have a Graded Hammer Action and should I go for this next time? Many thanks again for writing
such a useful book. John

Reply/ Hi John

Modern digital pianos have a much nicer
piano sound and  a more responsive key touch.

The KR650 is very old, and I would imagine it
has quite a bit of wear to it. When keys
wear out they become noisy.

Let me know if you would like help choosing
a new piano.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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Hi Graham,

Thanks for your writeup on digital pianos, it is a very helpful resource. I was wondering if you can share some insights as I am looking to upgrade from my current Yamaha P85 to something newer with better sound quality and looks.

I am currently considering either the Casio AP250 or Yamaha YDP S31 as I can get these 2 models for a reasonable price. The reviews are not the greatest for either them I think, but they do seem to be better pianos than P85? I am not totally sure if this is the case, so will appreciate some of your views on them.

Alternatively if these 2 are not considerably different or better than P85, I am also considering the Yamaha CLP430. This will be quite a step up in terms of the cost, but from what I found out so far, it seems to be worth the extra money and a good safe buy for the longer term and for progressing. Btw, I have been learning for a couple of years, but am still pretty much at a very elementary level.

Any advice and insights will be much appreciated. Thank you very much.

Lam

Reply/ Hi Lam

The pianos you mention, with exception to the CLP430,
are all discontinued. Have you seen them for sale
second hand?

The CLP430 is in a different league to the others.
It has a much nicer piano tone. It sounds closer
to a real piano.
The CLP430 also has a more resistant and more
sensitive key touch… so it feels like playing the
a piano too.

If your budget allows, go for the CLP430.

Otherwise, the Roland RP301 is worth a look.
It costs about £500 less, and is very nice.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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I have sold my old acoustic piano but would like to replace it with a digital instrument

Dear Sir,

I wonder if you can help.  I am looking at purchasing a digital piano.  I have just sold my old acoustic piano but would like to replace it with a digital instrument that has a number of voices, especially piano (of course!), church organ, harpsichord and strings.  I know that there are new models available around the £700-£800 mark, but I have an opportunity to buy a second-hand CVP-205.  I have seen and played it and was very impressed by the quality of the sound and the wide range of voices available (especially those that I am particularly looking for).  I am told that it hasn’t been played very much (the lady selling it inherited it from her mother) and the case is certainly in pretty good condition apart from a few small scratches near the music rest and on the legs.  I am also told that it is four years or so old.  An engineer has just been to visit to reconnect the pedals to the main electronics (as they weren’t working, apparently after the instrument was last moved) and has advised her that she should be asking around £1,000 for it.  She tells me that it was some £2,700 new.

What would you advise?  I like the instrument but don’t want to part with £1,000 – I might have offered £800 but would like your take on whether or not this is a bargain or something to stay away from.

Many thanks,

STEVE PETCH.

Reply/  Hi Stephen

I think £1000 seems reasonable (but a little risky is something
were to go wrong with the piano).

Repairs on digital pianos are very expensive — £100 +

The problem with the pedal doesn’t give confidence.

I would try to negotiate for around £700 – £800.

Yours pianistically,
Graham Howard
UK Pianos

Terms Of Keys: Graded/Scaled/Progressive – Please Explain The Difference

Dear Graham

I have been doing some research in preparation to purchase a digital piano and I’ve come across a number of different descriptions in terms of the keys – variously, graded/scaled/progressive/.   Can you please explain to me the difference?  and how much should this effect my decision on purchasing?   I played the piano when I was younger to grade 10 level and want to purchase something that is of a fairly high quality that will provide the sound and touch of an accoustic piano – not too fussed about the ‘bells and whistles’  – what would you recommend?

Many thanks

Svava

Reply/ Hi Svava

Scaled, progressive and graded hammer action all mean the same thing.

Each manufacturer likes to call it their own way.

I don’t know why this is… it just confuses everyone!

The best name for it is ‘progressive hammer action’.

The describes it best as the keys get progressively lighter
as you ascend the keyboard — just like a real piano.

It is important to have this feature as well as touch sensitivity.

The pianos I recommend for you are the Yamaha CLP220, the
Roland RP101 and the Classenti CDP1.

The Yamaha is the clear winner in my view.

I find the Roland has too light an action, but a decent sound.

The Classenti has slightly heavier keys than the Yamaha (which
is good really), but the sound is not quite as realistic as the Yamaha.

Yours pianistically,
Graham Howard
UK Pianos

 

Graham Howard, Piano Adviser

Send me an email if you have any questions or need advice: grahamhoward@ukpianos.co.uk
Or call 020 8367 5107

 

“What’s the differences between graded hammer action keys and hammer action keys?”

Max

Reply/ Hi Max

Graded hammer action is a more superior
and more realistic key touch.

It simply means that the key weight is
heavy in the bass while gradually
getting lighter in weight is you ascend
the keyboard (to the right side).

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

“Please recommend a good portable stage piano”

Hi – I’ve been carefully reading your very informative website and buying guides and wanted to check whether I’m applying the knowledge correctly to my own requirements It’s also tricky at the moment without having the luxury of being able to visit your store in person.

I have long wanted to play the piano and some years ago bought an inexpensive Yamaha keyboard and had a few piano lessons, however work commitments meant I lapsed. I never really liked playing that keyboard as it didn’t feel like a proper piano and I no longer have it.

My interest in learning the piano has not gone away though so I am now looking again at getting some form of keyboard and the digital pianos seem to be just what I am looking for: whilst I’d love an upright acoustic I don’t have the room for one. I don’t want the same sort of multi-function device with 500 sampled instruments that I had before, I just want something that is very much like a piano but has the merits of being something I can put away when not in use, including its stand.

I don’t plan on being especially proficient: I’m not going to be trying to play Chopin, but would like to learn how to play a bit of boogie woogie, or cocktail piano. I’m an adult learner and not planning on going through the grades or playing with other musicians.

Looking through your site there are three that caught my eye:
– Kurweil MPS10
– Broadway AB1
– Hadley S1

They all seem to have piano-style keyboards and be modest in size and well-regarded by you. There is quite a price range between them and I’m not sure what the compromise is between the cheapest and most expensive, or if there are other models to consider.

I’d appreciate your advice on whether I am considering the right digital pianos and to clarify the difference between the models that I can’t experience for myself due to the lockdown.

Many thanks

David

Reply/ Hi David

I would say, out of the three piano you mentioned,
that the Kurzweil MPS10 would suit you best.

The MPS10 has really sensitive keys that offer
fast repetition, so you are able to play any piece
of music no matter the difficulty.

The Broadway AB1 and Hadley S1 are good for
beginners, but don’t have quite as good a key
action as the Kurzweil.

What’s more, the Kurzweil has much larger
speakers. This gives the tone more depth and
warmth. It also projects the sound and produces
more clarity to the sound.

We have one brand new one in stock for £799.
Also an ex-display in good condition going for £699.

Let me know if you would like to order one.

Yours pianistically

Graham Howard

Question/  “Do you sell portable digital pianos? Any on display?”

Hi Graham, yes the book is very useful, and I’ve done what you said, watched lots of you tube reviews!
I’m actually a guitar player but I’m keen to learn a bit of piano.
This is where we are, it would be used in a small church setting, we would want portability because we meet in different venues and although I’m a complete beginner there are some more accomplished players in the group, so we don’t really want a complete novice instrument. We’d probably need the ability to connect to either an amp or pa if we use bigger venues.
The only model I’ve managed to get my hands on so far is the Kawai ES110, I really liked the sound but found the keys very springy, mind you I don’t know if that’s right or wrong. So really we’re looking around the 5-600 mark. I’m not too keen, based on the sound on you tube through a soundbar on a TV, of the Yamaha sound, but as I said, I liked the Kawai, and the Roland FP10 and 30. So any advice would be appreciated. I live quite near the Enfield shop but it always seems busy. Do you sell portable digital pianos? I haven’t really seen any when I’ve looked around.
My ambition is really just basic accompaniment so I’m not looking at learning to be what I’d call a pianist. As I said at the start I’m mainly a guitarist but do have a desire to play some tunes.
Thanks
Will
Reply/ Hi Will

We do have a selection of portable pianos.

Here is what we have on display in our Enfield store:

Hadley S1
Broadway AB1
Kurzweil MPS10

The Kurzweil MPS10 has a lovely sound.
This is located in the main room upstairs and
you are welcome to pop in and test it out any time.

The Broadway AB1 is a good all rounder with
a nice tone and responsive key action.

If you would like to try the range then please pop
in on a Saturday if possible. This is the only
day I am in the Enfield shop.
I will be there this Saturday between 10am and 4pm
if you are around.

Kind regards
Graham Howard
UK Pianos

 

Question/

Dear Graham,

I’ve been reading your circulars for a while, and have waded through your guide from time to time. But now the time has come to make decisions.

I should say straight away: I don’t play. I really don’t. Wish I did, but there you are.

My Son does though. He’s 22 and pretty musical – plays acoustic, electric and bass guitar, drums, piano – and sings.

We have a Broadwood ‘bar-less’ baby grand piano, so he’s used to a proper action. We also have a Hammond M101 which he uses sometimes for organ music.  Unfortunately those are both now in storage as we are moving house – and more to the point he is now a student and will be living in small flats and things for the next few years. We therefore need to think of how he can to continue to play, and I would like to find something to buy for him to allow him to do this.

My thinking – and you are welcome to disagree – is this:

He will have access to good pianos in the future when he performs, and to the Broadwood again when he eventually has room for it.

The purchase of an electronic piano is therefore as an alternative, to help him continue playing when he might otherwise not be able to.

The BIG advantages of an electronic piano are versatility and portability, and these will persist even when he has the Broadwood again. I think we need to make the most of these, rather than trying to get the very best piano-like experience for him. That way an electronic piano will continue to be of use to him for a long time.

So I don’t think we are looking for a stand-up electronic piano that sits in the corner looking for all the world like a real upright. That is surely a main piano for people who have no room for the real thing.

I think we are probably looking for something nearer to what you call a ‘Stage Piano’.

On the other hand it does not need to be all that light. It can be pretty heavy, in fact. It just needs to be possible to carry it around and set it up in different places, even if it takes two people to do it.

To me that implies a full 88-key keyboard, probably on a strong X-stand, with plug-in foot pedals. But it also implies a good, weighted action which will enable him to transfer his skills to the real thing when it’s available.

Sound is a tricky one. It should probably be capable of producing a reasonable sound as it stands, but it is likely to be played through a separate sound system much of the time, so on-board sound is not really critical so long as it is capable of good sound through external equipment or headphones. MIDI output would also be useful of course.

My target price is somewhere between £500 and £900. I know this is wide, and I’d even be prepared to go outside it if you think there is an ideal machine out there for us, but I’m looking for your advice on the kind of machines which would fit the requirements and have very little idea what can be bought for the money.

I’d love your thoughts.

As for buying; I would happily buy from you if that can be arranged. Or if you think there is somewhere local I should go to please feel free to tell me.

Best wishes. And keep up the good work; I’ve passed your guide on to quite a few people!

Richard

Reply/ Hi Richard

The Kurzweil MPS10 and Roland FP60 would
both be suitable for your son.

They’re really good pianos and have a realistic
key feel and lovely piano tone. There’s little
to choose between them, but I would say that
the Kurzweil sound is a bit fuller and has more
resonance.

You can see them here:
www.ukpianos.co.uk/kurzweil-mps10

www.ukpianos.co.uk/roland-fp60

They can both be connected to an external amp.
Although with the Kurzweil it’s probably not necessary
because of its large volume range.

Kind regards,

Graham Howard

 

Graham Howard, Piano Adviser

Send me an email if you have any questions or need advice: grahamhoward@ukpianos.co.uk
Or call 020 8367 5107

 

“I’m looking for a portable piano”

I’m looking for a piano that will be moved reasonably frequently and needs to be portable – at least two gigs a month – have a yamaha keyboard that is about twelve years old and I have been doing some work with a choir using a
variety of pianos and just feel I would like to a) replace the keyboard and b) go towards an instrument that feels more like a piano. Had a little try out of the p35 and p105 last week as we were on holiday and quite liked the feel.

The piano might be good for working with the choir as you can not always guarantee the quality (tunefulness etc) of a piano at a venue when it is a small ladies choir that does mainly church halls.

Regards
Ian

Reply/Hi Ian

Then the Yamaha P115 is my recommendation.

It’s very popular.

But, if you’re not in a hurry, there’s a new
Roland coming out soon.
It’s the FP-30.

You can see it here:
www.ukpianos.co.uk/roland-fp-30

The FP30 has a much nicer feel to the keys than
the Yamaha P115. It has more resistance, so the
feeling is closer to a real piano.

I also prefer the Roland’s depth of tone. The
sound is warmer… more Steinwayish.

Now, the only downside is its physical weight.
Because it has a hammer action and wooden
body, its overall weight is more than the P115.

But this is definitely worth sacrificing for all
the upsides.

We’re getting the first batch of FP-30’s in.
So let me know if you’d like to reserve one.

Yours pianistically

Graham Howard

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“Which portable piano will be good for my daughter?”

Hi Graham,

I bought a Yamaha Clavinova from you back in 2011.

My daughter is progressing well and on to grade 2 now. I’m looking for a portable Yamaha keyboard we can take with us to France and IOW on holiday. Any ideas on which model would be good? She enjoys singing and making up songs to the preloaded tunes and playing other sounds, as well as recording what she does.

Regards,
Charles

Reply/ Hi Charles

Well, the Yamaha P105 springs to mind as
being the most suitable one…

It has a nice key touch and a really good
piano tone.

It is also lightweight and compact. So easy
enough to carry around with you.

As far as additional features go, it has
a two-track recorder, which I think will
be useful for your daughter.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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“Korg SP170S or SP280?”

Hi Graham,
I haven’t owned a piano in several years, and I’m now thinking of buying a stage piano.
I have also played various organs and keyboards for about 30 years, and have always used Yamaha and Korg.

I currently has a Korg PA and a Korg workstation and want a Stage Piano to go in my A frame.
Obviously I’ve been thinking of either a Sp170S or Sp280 as a portable piano.

Reading your reviews has made me think, “Am I getting the right instrument?”

I want as realistic sound and action as possible but at the best possible price.

What would you recommend ?

Kind Regards,

Wendy

P.S. Great website, loads of info.

Reply/ Hi Jane

There’s two portable pianos I’d like to recommend
for you: Yamaha P105 and Korg SP280.

Choosing between them is quite difficult though…

I’ve thoroughly tested both these pianos on
different aspects of key touch and sound quality.

The overall key touch scoring is almost identical.
They both have a nice weighted touch with
adequate resistance both on the down and
up stroke.

The Yamaha does sound cleaner though…
There’s just has a hint more pureness to its tone.

You can see the Yamaha here:
www.ukpianos.co.uk/yamaha-p105

And the Korg here:
www.ukpianos.co.uk/korg-sp280

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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“Portable piano under £600”

Hi Graham,

I am interested in buying a digital piano and am a bit overwhelmed by the choice on offer. I have had an acoustic piano (1980s Schimmel) for a long time but am looking for something in addition which I can use to practice in the evenings after work when the kids are in bed, so good action is more important than sound quality if there needs to be a trade-off to keep the price in the range below about £600.

To add some more constraints, my wife is keen for it to take as little space as possible so a slab would be best as that can be put away more easily. Finally, I want my kids to use it to start learning so again the close the action to a good acoustic piano the better.

What would you recommend, please?

Many thanks in advance.

Kind regards,
Kim

Hi Kim

It seems that a portable piano is the one
that would be most practical for you needs.

But the problem with that type of piano is
the sound quality and key touch…

Because the body is smaller than a standard
digital piano the tone is usually thinner and
weaker. This is because smaller speakers
with a lesser wattage are used.

Also, the key touch is generally lighter in
resistance. These two problems are serious
disadvantages of portable pianos.

It would be better to go for a standard size
digital piano that has a fixed wooden stand
and 3 pedals.

The most compact one available is the
Broadway B2.

You can see this here:
www.ukpianos.co.uk/broadway-b2

The Broadway has a really nice tone to it. The
key touch is also responsive enough – although
a little noisier than the Broadway B1 model –
to manage advanced technical pieces.

I recommend the Broadway B2 for you.

If you could make room for a few more
centimetres then the B1 would be an even
better choice.

You can see the B1 here:
www.ukpianos.co.uk/broadway-b1

Let me know if you would like more info.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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“I’m not sure which portable stage piano to buy”

Hi, Graham!

Thank you so much for writing me.  I certainly do have questions for you.  I read your book today.  Before I read it, I was pretty sure of my selection.  After reading it, I thought, “I’d better test these pianos again.”  I returned to the music store today and, knowing a bit more about what to listen and feel for, I have formed new opinions and raised new requirements.  I was just scanning your site, in fact, and was about to begin drafting my inquiry to you.  I don’t know how to call your phone number because I’m in the USA in New York, so I will email my questions to you now.

Here goes:

I’m looking for a portable digital piano with internal speakers that feels and sounds like a real piano.  I don’t mind at all it being on the heavy side like the 50+ pounders.  I can always have help moving it into and out of my car or to bring it outside to play, which I think would be nice when it’s warm.  I’m interested in putting it on a Z-stand because I like the idea of playing while standing.  I’m not going to be touring or playing in front of an audience; it’s just for myself and whoever wants to hear what I’m up to.

The piano I was set on before my return visit today was the FP-7F.  I began to doubt my certainty when I was surprised to read that the FP-7F was only partially weighted and that its touch sensitivity is 1-5.  You see, the specs on the Roland FP-7F website say it has 100 levels of touch sensitivity.  Is that some preposterous claim?

My results from today’s visit are as follows:

I don’t like the Yamaha P-155 because of the sound and because I feel like the keys push up forcefully on my fingers after I press them down.  I don’t like the Casio Privias.  The store ran out of FP-7F’s, so I didn’t get to try it with my new learned wisdom.  I did get to try the Roland V piano which I was told has the same action as the FP-7F, and I actually didn’t really like it because I felt like I couldn’t play softly.  The salesman told me that this is a sorry limitation of digital pianos.  I wanted to try the FP-4F, but this piano was in a box, and I arrived close to closing time, so I was told that another Roland on display had the same action as the FP-4F.  I don’t remember which model it was, but I definitely did not like the action.  It was much too soft, and the surface texture of the keys didn’t feel real.  I did like the surface texture of the Roland V keys.  Next, I played the Roland F-120.  This was my favorite.  I actually enjoyed playing this one.  The heavier action, the surface texture, and the sound were the most enjoyable, but soft playing was still hard to achieve.  The salesman told me that the FP-7 actually has the same action as the F-120.  I wonder if this means I ought to buy an FP-7.  If I remember correctly, I think I did notice something funny about the F-120 – that when the keys are kept pressed, they never stop sounding – the sound never decayed, even with the reverb turned off.  I was playing Nocturne in E minor for all of my testing.

I haven’t found a location to try the Kawai ES6 or any Kurzweil portables.  I certainly haven’t come across any Classenti’s, but I am so interested in trying the P1 since I read from your site that this brand has the most realistic feel.  I am concerned, though, because I also read that it has only 1-4 touch sensitivity.  Classenti offers a 60 day free trial period, so a blind purchase would not be terribly risky but certainly terribly inconvenient.  I do see that the Classenti P1 makes #8 on your top 10 list while the Roland FP’s don’t make it at all.  I have an acoustic piano, so I’m only looking for the best portable digital with internal speakers.  (What is the basis for your sound ratings?  Is it the quality of the sound file itself or is it the sound that comes out of the internal speaker, headphone, or amplifier, the last two of course varying according to selection?)  I haven’t tested all of the Yamahas and all of the Rolands, but based on my tests of the portables, I find it hard to believe that Yamaha beats Roland in sound and touch.  I can only assume that there are big differences between the cabinet and portable styles.

I don’t know of any portable digitals with my requirements besides those aforementioned.  I will try the Roland FP-7F again once my local store restocks them.  Based on my likes and dislikes, do you have any more suggestions?  I don’t care about cost so much.  I like the Roland sound, but if there is a better feel out there than what I’ve felt, with a comparable sound, why, that’d be just perfect.

Thank you very much for your care!  I look forward to your response.

Respectfully,

Cristina Catero

Reply/ Hi Cristina

Nearly all digital pianos have from 3 to 5 levels
of touch sensitivity. 6 levels could be possible,
but would require a very large memory; so quite
expensive to implement.

One of the reasons you had trouble playing softly
on the V-piano is because of the escapement.
This feels quite lumpy at the bottom of the
key stroke. I’m not a fan of escapement.

The nicest stage piano I’ve played (with built-
in speakers) is the Roland FP-7F.

The key touch is a tad lighter than I’m used to,
but it still feels smooth and responsive under
the fingers.

You can see this piano here:
www.ukpianos.co.uk/roland-fp-7f

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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“The stage piano I want doesn’t exist on this planet!”

Hi Graham,

Thank you for your kind follow-up.
I went through your very helpful book and I came to a conclusion that what I wanted does
not exist on this planet.

What I have been looking for is a portable digital piano that can be taken with me during
my business trip.
I have YAMAHA CLP -170, no longer on their catalogue, and I am quite happy with it.
Unfortunately it requires a truck to carry.
What I need is a light piano with YAMAHA’s GH3 keyboard touch.  The closest in your book
may be YAMAHA P-95.  I had an opportunity to play the model but the keyboard touch was
not as desired.

I am beginning to realize that I am seeking an impossible since keyboard’s quality and
piano’s mass are proportional.  As my priority is the lightness, I would have to
compromise with keyboard quality.  Maybe I settle with YAMAHA P-95.  Any better
alternative?

Regards,

Suki

Reply/ Hi Zuki

You are absolutely right… there isn’t a
professional lightweight, portable piano
that has fully-weighted keys.

The Classenti P1 has the weight of touch
you’re looking for,  but it’s too heavy
for frequent transporting…

The Yamaha P95 is very light, and easy to
carry around, but the key touch is too
basic, lightweight, and springy.

You will probably have to compromise.

Maybe the Yamaha P155?

www.ukpianos.co.uk/yamaha-p155

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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“I want a portable piano to carry around”

Hello,

I’d be grateful for your thoughts on the best possible options for a digital piano –

– good (‘real’) piano sound and touch
– as light as possible (i.e. portable)
– bells/whistles/recorded angel choirs/vast pre-recorded song files etc. NOT required
– few technical gadgets

Bottom line: I just want a good ‘piano’ that I (a weak and feeble female) can cart around. If I could take my own lovely old upright, I would!

I have read as much as I can about possibilities, but am still confused. Your help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
Judy

Reply/ Hi Judy

Unfortunately there isn’t a digital piano in
existence that has a good key touch and
is lightweight.

A proper hammer action weighs quite a lot,
so most pianos that are any good are
difficult to carry around.

You might have to compromise a bit on
the key touch.

Pianos worth considering are:

Korg SP170S
Yamaha P95
Yamaha P155
Roland FP-4F

The Roland is the best by miles.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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“Roland FP-7F or Classenti P1?”

Hi there, thanks very much for the Howard score is really good and helpful,
I have a question looking at your score is the roland fp7f better than
classenti p1, what are the differences between both, I would like to get
one, but a little confuse am a begginer or which one you recommend it
thanks for you info…

Reply/ Hi Carolina

The Roland FP-7F has a more sensitive key touch.
It’s more suitable for advanced playing.
The sound is also more resonant.

But the Classenti P1 would still be a good
choice. Especially if you are a beginner.

I like the P1, it has a pleasant, natural sound.
The key touch is also fully-weighted, so it’s
good for learning to play on.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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“I need a more portable piece of furniture”

I am looking to replace my upright piano, a Bentley which has given years of good service, with an
instrument which ‘sounds like a proper piano’ but is a far more moveable/portable piece of furniture.

After careful consideration I’m inclined towards the Classenti P1 on the grounds that, on paper, it
offers very good sound quality, good portability in terms of ease of assembly to play & total weight
of piano & stand and the almost exclusive back-up by Classenti of a 5 year warranty.

Reply/ Hi David

The Classenti P1 has a similar feel to the keys as
your Bentley piano. So you shouldn’t notice
much difference transferring over.

The sound is good, and the 4-way speaker
system adds a lot of punch to the sound if
you need volume.

The downside is the weight. It is a portable
piano but, because of its hammer action,
it weighs a few kg more than the average
portable piano.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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“Key noise on stage piano”

Dear Graham
Have tried the Yamaha P155 today and the Roland FP 4 (didnot have a FP 7F to try and also tried a Kawai.)

Roland model came out tops – the key touch and feel was better than the Yamaha and the Kawai keys felt very plastic and slippy. So i am almost convinced the Roland FP – 7F would be the one for me – just slightly worried about the key noise on glissandi sweeps  – will all digital pianos make this noise?
Suzanne

Reply/ Hi Suzanne

You’ve chosen the right piano.

The Roland certainly feels smoother and more
responsive than the Yamaha and Kawai. It
also has a warmer, rounder sound.

As for key noise, all digital pianos have
this to some degree. The Roland is noisier
on the key’s return than the Yamaha and
Kawai. But you only notice this when playing
very quietly or with headphones on. It
doesn’t bother me that much when playing.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

Further/

Since asking the last question -would like to ask another – sorry!
am i correct in thinking that if i went for any of the more expensive Roland models then they would not have the wattage/speakers i need – without buying a separate amp?
Sounds like the Roland RD700NX is all singing/all dancing, but more gadgets than i need and no speakers, am i right?

Hi Suzanne

If you intend playing a stage piano at venues
then you will certainly need a separate amp.

The Roland RD700NX doesn’t have internal
speakers like the FP-7F. And yes, it has
many more bells and whistles.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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“Do you recommend the Yamaha CP-300?”

I’m looking for a stage piano, and here in my NY-Pennsylvania corner of the world there’s not
much choice in brands.  You seemed to imply that Roland and Korg have an edge on Yamaha,
but I couldn’t find a review on your site of the Yamaha CP-300, which is the instrument, thanks
to your extremely helpful insights, I’ve nearly settled on.  The trouble is, no one in this area
has it in the showroom.  How far wrong could I go if I ordered it online without ever having played one?

Barbara

Reply/ Hi Barbara

The CP300 wouldn’t be my choice because it’s
big and heavy. This makes it difficult to
carry around.

But the touch and sound is very good. So
if you don’t mind it being cumbersome then
you should go for it!

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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“Will stage piano hinder my progress?”

Hi,

I am a (keen) novice and own an acoustic piano (baby/mid Grand).

I would like to practise more when everyone’s in bed and wondered about getting a digital keyboard (with fold away stand to minimise storage space etc  – I think they are called ‘stage’ pianos).

a) Is it worth it – will it hinder my progress switching between different pianos types
b) I had in mind paying around £500-£700 (max) Yamaha P95 / Casio PX130 / 330 / Korg SP250 ?

1) Is this a daft idea
c) Have you any recomendations?

Thanks

Chris

Reply/ Hi Chris

If you’re used to playing an acoustic piano then
you’d be more comfortable with a digital piano
that has heavy-weighted keys…

It’s important to get the feel and resistance of
the keys as close as possible to the piano you
are playing.

The Yamaha P95, Casio PX130/PX330, Korg SP250
all have a medium-weighted key resistance.

If you’re considering spending around £500 –
£700 then the piano I recommend for you is
the Classenti P1…

The Classenti P1 has heavy-weighted keys. It
also has bigger speakers than other stage
pianos in the same price bracket – so you
get a clear, rich piano sound too.

There is a downside to the P1 though…
although portable, it is heavier than the
stage pianos mentioned previously.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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“The piano I want needs to be easy transportable but doesn’t need to be lightweight”

Hi Graham

I read your digital piano report. Impressive piece of homework and clarified many subjects
in plain language.

Perhaps you can help me in making the final decision.

I play a 1904 Ernst Kaps (upright) at home and although I LOVE this piano (in an absolute
unbelievable beautiful condition) I think I would not really ‘desire’ the old style touch
on my digital piano. Also I think I don’t require the exact replica of an acoustic but do
desire a rich natural sound.
The piano I want needs to be easy transportable but not necessarely a lightweight as I
think it’s more easy to place it sturdy if it weighs a few extra pounds.

So back to my choice, I don’t hear the KORG SP 170 mentioned yet and to be honest I have
a bit of a crush on the looks and the (loads of) positive reviews on internet. Style that
we will be playing would mainly be pop/blues/songwriter stuff.
So, how would in your experience the SP 170 (based on sound and touch) fit between Yamaha
NP30, P85 and the Classenti P1….. looking at my application.
1) NP30: cheap and cheerful, perhaps good enough for me to start, despite the missing
keys?
2) Classenti: think this could be my first choice but again a fair bit more expensive
then SP 170, and I wasn’t cheered up by the sound in the attached movie (although the
lady really knows how to play!!!)
3) P 85: perhaps the closest to SP 170 but with a sound lacking ‘depth’ and the SP170
perhaps more crispy, colourful and transparent (which is what I like)?

Any comment is welcome

Many thanks in advance

Christopher

Reply/ Hi Christopher

The Korg SP170 is certainly a good looking beast.
It’s also very popular… well, it has the looks
after all.

But, what really lets it down is the key touch.
And this is the reason it doesn’t make my top
10 lists.

I find the touch a little too lightweight. And
the keys feels spongy at the bottom of their
downstroke.

It’s not for me. But maybe OK for you? I prefer
a firmer, more solid feel to the keys. This
way I can put some feeling into my music.

The Classenti P1 does have a nice, solid feel
to the keys. It also has a good sound… a lot
nicer than the poor quality video shows.

The P85 (now P95) is marginally better all
round than the Korg.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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“Kawai or Roland stage piano?”

Hi Graham,

I’m hearing reports that the new Kawai MP6 is an excellent instrument in the €1000 – €1500 price range. The spec looks really good, How would you rate it against the Roalnd FP7F in terms of spec etc.? There is also the new ES6.

Would really appreciate your view.

John.

Reply/ Hi John

I really don’t like the sound or feel of
Kawai stage pianos…

The Roland FP7F is a lot nicer to play.

The FP7F has a firmer (but a little lighter)
key touch. The firmness more than makes up
for the lightness.

The Roland sound is also more vibrant.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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“Yamaha CP33 or Roland FP4f?”

Hi Graham,

I’ve looked at your handbook on buying digital pianos and it’s been a great help.
I’ve been looking at either a Yamaha CP33 or Roland FP4f and am wondering which one is best.
After looking at the reviews I see that they do differ especially on price but is there anyway you
can give me a quick comparison on both and your thoughts on them.

Thanks.
Kind Regards
Janice

Reply/ Hi Janice

They are both nice pianos.

I prefer the sound of the Roland.
It’s richer and more piano-like.

The Yamaha has a slightly heavier key touch.

I would be happy to play either, but being a
bit of an acoustic piano snob, I would feel
more comfortable playing the Roland for
a long period of time.

Here’s my rating:

Yamaha CP33 (70 out of 100)
Roland FP-4F (72 out of 100)

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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“Would the Korg SP250 be a good choice for our church?”

Dear Graham

We have now received your book.

Thanks for all your help and advice, its good to be able to turn to some one for help.

Info:-
We want to be able to use this instrument in our church along with or some times in stead of  the church organ, it needs to be reasonably portable to move from room to room. We have a limit of £500 or there abouts.
We have had a look around and so far we like the KORG SP250 and think that this will fit all our criteria.

We would value your opinion and advice.

Regards

John banks

Reply/ Hi John

The Korg SP250 has a nice piano sound. But the
key touch is a little too light really…

I recommend getting something with more weight
to the keys. This would feel closer to playing
a real piano, and be more enjoyable to play.

With a budget limited to £500 you won’t be
able to get the professional stage pianos
from Yamaha and Roland, but there is a
good compromise…

The Classenti P1 offers a stage piano with
heavy-weighted keys and a very nice piano
sound.

What’s more, the P1 has 4 speakers. These
speakers are also set up on the back of
the piano. This directs the sound towards
the audience….

Having a set up like this means you don’t
need to get an additional keyboard amp to
bump up the sound, unless you intend using
the piano in a very large hall.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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“Is the Classenti P1 as good as the Yamaha P155?”

Hi Graham,

Was just wondering what your thoughts are on the Yamaha P155, is the Classenti
P1 as good?

Obviously there is a significant price difference but having spent a day trying
out various pianos it was the P155 that stood out for my wife. We were unable to
try the Classenti P1 however.

Thanks again,

David

Reply/ Hi David

The Yamaha P155 is a good, all-round piano…
You get a nice piano sound and a realistic touch.
It’s also the most popular around its price point.

The P155 has a slightly higher reliability
and build quality score.

The Yamaha P155 has more features than the
Classenti P1.

It also weighs about 5kg lighter.

The Classenti has a heavier weight to the keys,
so it feels more like playing an upright piano.
It has an equally nice piano sound.

Overall I would give the Yamaha the slight edge.
But, value for money wise, the Classenti wins
by a mile.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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“Best stage piano for £1,500?”

Dear Graham

I would just like add my name to list of those who the take time in
responding to your free valuable advice & information pages. I think it
great that one can obtain free impartial unbiased advice.

I have written to you a few times over the past couple of years.

I currently play in several bands all differing in styles and I got a few
years under my belt I have used most of the semi pro line keyboards.

I am using a Korg PA 588 (although somewhat heavy 25 Kg) Korg PA 588 does
have many features I bought for studio and home use

I like having the weighted keys but I have been using for live gigs, to
continue using this beast is going to cause problems with my back,

I did purchase the Korg 73 key SV1 but it had limited uses, sadly the
updates/sound patches did allow you to transfer the extra sounds I was
looking for

And the piano sound was a bit thin, although the organ sounds Electric piano
were great.

I am looking for a replacement stage Piano/Keyboard either Yamaha or Roland.
With weighted keys Less than 25 kg.

I don’t require built in speakers as I route via the PA with return
monitoring for myself.

For rehearsing at home I use plug in head phones or small combo amp.

Requirements

88 notes weighted keys

Grand Piano rich sound with a good heavy bottom end.

Two types of vintage Electric piano

Variety of Drawbar Organs and Vox Continental

Accordion

Strings

Record facility would be good but not essential

I’ve read many reviews on mostly on the Pro keyboard range stage on pianos
Nord is out of my league.

I have a budget of £1500.

My question is which is better Roland RD 300 NX or the Yamaha CP50

I value your input in choosing my next stage piano or keyboard.

I will keep the Korg PA 588 for home use only.

Thank you in advance.

Julian

Reply/ Hi Julian

The Yamaha CP50 would be a better choice
than the Roland RD300NX.

The CP50 has a firmer, more realistic key
touch. This would be the main reason to
choose this.

What about the Roland RD700NX?
That might be something even better for you?
I recommend trying one out.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

Hi Graham,

I used to play as a child, and would
like to take it up again. I am looking
for a digital piano as will have a newborn
In the house in about 7 weeks so
Volume control/ headphones is
Important.

I am not sure whether to buy second hand
Or use your “rent to own” scheme?

Can you offer any advice?

Many thanks,
Maz

Reply/ Hi Maz

Rent-to-Own is always a good idea as it allows
you to ease into the payments with the
flexibility of changing your mind after a
short while.

You can get a brand new digital piano on
our Rent-to-Own programme for just £45
per month.

You can read more about this piano here:
www.ukpianos.co.uk/classenti-cdp1

And here’s details of the Rent-to-Own programme:
www.ukpianos.co.uk/piano-rental

You can call me on 020 8367 2080 if you’d
like more info.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

Graham Howard, Piano Adviser

Send me an email if you have any questions or need advice: grahamhoward@ukpianos.co.uk
Or call 020 8367 5107

 

Question/

Hi Graham

I think we’re going to rent the CDP2 (still got to decide on colour – do you
have any views?). I’ve printed off the three forms and have the following
questions:

1. If I send the forms tomorrow you will get them Tuesday, what date could
you normally ship by? Also can we specify a time of day?
2. Long term rental agreement: I know £55 is the amount payable monthly.
What do I put in “Deposit” and “Amount Payable in Advance”? (please give
answers for CDP3 also, just in case we change our minds).
3. When should the first monthly rental be payable?

Regards

Nick

Reply/ Hi Nick

Choosing a colour would depend on the colour of
the furniture and fittings you have in your room.

You can call me on 020 8367 2080 if you would
like some suggestions.

As far as popular colours go the rosewood is the
most popular, followed by black satin, then
polished ebony.

We can usually deliver the day after we receive
your forms.

If you live locally to us (within 70 miles of North
London) then you can specify almost anytime.

If you don’t live near us then we can deliver
Monday to Friday 9am to 5pm.

The deposit is 20% of the piano’s price:
(CDP2 £163.80, CDP3 £259).

The amount payable in advance is:

Deposit + Delivery (CDP2: £45 or CDP3: £65) + 1st
month’s rental in advance (CDP2: £55 or CDP3: £75)

The first monthly rental payment is due 1 month
after delivery.

If you would rather we filled out all the figures
then just leave them blank.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

“Is the ivory-feel keyboard porous and susceptible to dirt?”

Hi Graham

I’ve just subscribed to your digital piano guide and had a look through your website– fantastic resources which I feel very lucky to have come across.

I’m an experienced pianist, living in a very small studio, and am considering buying the Roland F120R, (largely because it is so compact but also because I quite like the tone).   One thing that pops up in various blogs is some claims that the ivory-feel keyboard is quite porous and susceptible to dirt etc.    Is this a common issue in your experience ? My studio is in central London so we get a fair bit of traffic dust etc…

Thanks so much for your help

Jane

Reply/ Hi Jane

I’m sure there are some isolated cases, but I’ve
not heard any great number of complaints
about the synthetic ivory key tops.

You should be OK with this in your London studio.
Just dust off the keys from time to time, and
keep the lid closed when you’re not using the piano.

Yours pianistically

Graham Howard

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“My fingers slip off the keys. Do you recommend plastic or sythnetic ivory key tops?”

Many thanks for your note. Your 64-page report is very useful.

The dealers in my area sell Yamaha or Roland, and I am trying to decide
between the Roland 203, CLP 330 and CLP 340. I haven’t seen or played the
340, but my budget might stretch to it. Before I received your report, I
tested a CLP 330. Today I checked out a Roland 203, and ran your report’s
6 tests, which came off all right.

One other thing I tried which wasn’t very successful was to drum 3 or 4
fingers successively and rapidly and on the same note (with fingering
usually written as 5-4-3-2). I remember playing finger exercises on that
‘theme’ on previous pianos I’ve had. This time I couldn’t slide my fingers
off fast enough to make them sound, and (it may be my lack of practice or
finger strength) the action also seemed sluggish. Now I’m no virtuoso,
and what technique I may once have had is pretty well shot, but I expected a
better result. Maybe my fingers were too sweaty to slide quickly off the
key, or maybe the key wasn’t slippery enough. (It wasn’t humid in the shop
— it is autumn in Canada.) I wonder if other pianos would work better.
As mentioned, I tried a CLP 330 the other day, but didn’t run that
test. Piano keys can be made of wood or plastic and your report says that
wood absorbs moisture, but the Roland 203 has plastic keys. Is it just me
and my poor technique and my rusty fingers, or are the keys at fault? If
the latter, are there more slippery keys on comparable pianos?

I don’t know whether the above is just a problem with the way I currently
play or whether it is a real problem with the keys. I’d like to know your
reaction. I might consider going to a higher level Roland or Yamaha to
overcome this issue (if real).

I also see you recommend avoiding pianos with the ‘escapement’ and ‘key
off’ features. Of the three pianos mentioned, which avoids this feature?

Thanks again for your report, and I hope you have time to respond to this.

Cheers, Norman Treloar

Reply/ Hi Norman

I’m not sure what the problem is with your fingers
slipping off the keys…

To test this you should find a shop that has the
Roland HP-302 and the Yamaha CLP330.

The HP-302 has synthetic ivory key tops, the Yamaha
has plastic key tops. If your hands sweat a lot then
fingers can slip on plastic keys. Synthetic ivory
keys ‘may’ reduce this because they do absorb the
sweat, to some extent.

The piano I recommend for you is the Yamaha CLP340.
This has the sythnetic ivory key tops. The sound
and touch is also superb. It doesn’t have escapement,
so you’re not throwing money away on this feature.

You can read more about it here:
www.ukpianos.co.uk/yamaha-clp340

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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“How to remove permanent marker from piano keys?”

Hi – I’m a music teacher and one of my students has just written on the keys
my yamaha digital piano! She used a whiteboard marker and the mark won’t
come off. I’m heartbroken! PLEASE do you have any ideas?
regards,
Sue

Reply/ Hi Sue

You can try windowlene.

If that fails then you can try baking soda
mixed with toothpaste (sounds radical, but I’ve
heard this can work on permanent markers).

Other things you can try are alcohol or hairspray.

Try not to let any liquid run down between the keys.

Good luck!

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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“Please explain why some digital pianos have 88 keys and some less”

Hi Graham

Please could you explain why some digital pianos have 88 keys and some less.
I’m a beginner and don’t know what I should buy? I have read your 7 Things
you Must know and have found it very helpful.

Thanks
Bryan

Reply/ Hi Bryan

Most digital pianos have 88 keys. This is the same
number of keys that an upright piano has. Although
some older upright pianos have 85 keys.

There some digital pianos that have 76 keys. But
these are really more like keyboards than digital
pianos… their key touch is much lighter than
a typical digital piano.

I recommend going for a digital piano with 88,
fully-weighted keys.

The piano you get should also have touch sensitive
keys (minimum 4 levels). This allows you to play
4 different volume levels on each key.

A progressive hammer action is also worth getting.
Although not essential.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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“Touch sensitivity question”

Graham

Quick question – i know you refer to touch sensitivity being the most important thing and want to make sure that I’m understanding the product descriptions correctly.  A lot of the descriptions talk about : Hard/Medium/Soft/Fixed – I’m assuming that this equates to a 4 level as detailed in your book?  Stupid question I know it just seems that fixed touch sensitivity seems to defeat the object really

thanks for your help

Jane

Reply/ Hi Jane

Hard/Medium/Soft/Fixed refer to the response
of the key touch. I would always leave this on
the default (usually medium).

Touch sensitivity levels on the piano refer to
the different volume levels you can get when
pressing individual keys down at different
strengths.

Most digital pianos have 3 or 4 sensitivity levels.
The high end Roland, Yamaha and Classenti pianos
have 5 levels.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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“My fingers slide off the keys of my Yamaha Clavinova”

Dear Sir,

please can you explain why when I have my piano lesson on a modern Yamaha upright piano with plastic keys I have great difficulty getting my fingers to slide on the keys however when I play my own piano with ivory keys I have no problem at all.

I have just purchased another piano with ivory keys and again my fingers can slide smoothly. My teacher says that no other pupils complain of her keys being sticky, can you offer an explanation?

Yours sincerely

Duncan Rye

Reply/ Hi Duncan

This is the first time I’ve heard of this problem.

I don’ t know the exact answer, but It could be
a number of reasons.

Maybe your piano teacher’s keys are dirty?

Maybe a sticky drink had been spilt on them
and they haven’t been cleaned properly?

Maybe the sweat from hands is causing the
problem?

These are only suggestions.

If this becomes a real problem for you,
maybe you will have to get a teacher
to visit your home?

Personally, I do prefer playing on a piano
with ivory keys. The feel is much nicer than plastic.

Yours pianistically,
Graham Howard
UK Pianos

Further comments/

Hello Graham,

thank you for your reply, I have tried washing my hands thoroughly and hand
creams but nothing seems to help. I have suggested to Elizabeth, my teacher,
that it could be fear of her that is perhaps making my hands sweat!

Best regards

Duncan Rye

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“I do not know how to get the ink off the keys without damage”

To the answer person,
I found you on line and am hoping you can help me. I have a Acrosonic built by Baldwin and it is quite old.
My daughter unbeknown to me decided to learn to play the piano from a beginners book she found. To help her, in her opinion, she marked the keys by number and note with a permanent marker pen. Needless to say I was/am quite upset but do not know how to get the ink off the keys without damage.

On a couple of other sights it said to use nothing but white toothpaste,which I tried on one key and it did take most of the ink off. I do not want to use it on the other 14 keys if I will ruin them. I have called several piano stores and no one so far can tell me what to do. So here I am on line again looking for HELP.

I would be deeply greatful for a professionals advice,

Sincere Thanks,

Mrs. Hale

Reply/ Hi Mrs Hale

This is a common problem I have come across.

It really depends if the keys are ivory or plastic.

You should read an article I wrote earlier this year.
It explains in detail how to clean your keys:
www.ukpianos.co.uk/piano-keys-learn-how-to-clean-them

Yours pianistically,
Graham Howard
UK Pianos