Yamaha Digital Piano Questions

“Yamaha CLP470, CLP480 or Classenti CDP3i?”

Hi Graham

I have been looking at the Yamaha CLP470, CLP480 and the new Classenti CDP3i.

I did have a demo of the new Classenti CDP3i…how does that fair sound and touch wise..your colleague was very smitten…If you could give me the dimensions as they are not on the website, that would be great.

Reply/ Hi Ian

If you really want the best sound then there is no comparison to the CLP480.

If you don’t mind sacrificing a little then the CLP470 is still OK.

The Classenti CDP3i is a lovely piano too.

Its sound is really natural. This is helped by large (2 x 50 watts) front facing speakers, a large acoustic speaker box and rear soundboard that adds colour and resonance to the tone.

Here are the CDP3i dimensions:

Width 140.5cm

Depth 42cm

Height 79.5cm

The CLP480 is still better. But maybe the Classenti CP3i could be a good compromise between the CLP470 and CLP480.

 

Graham Howard, Piano Adviser

Send me an email if you have any questions or need advice: grahamhoward@ukpianos.co.uk
Or call 020 8367 5107

 

“What about clp 340?”

Hi Graham

You are really generous with your time and knowledge. Thank you!

You give CLP 430 place nr one and clp 440 place nr two.

What about clp 340? I have a possibility to buy such a one for a good price.

What I understand there is a new kind of sound in 440 compared to 340 but otherwise not so much different.

To my ears the sound of 340 is softer than the 440. Can that be right? I think I prefer the sound of 340 and is the new 400 model that much better than the 300 series?

Warm greetings

Sven Hansson

Reply/ Hi Sven

The difference is marginal, and hardly noticeable.

Go for the previous model if you can get hold of one… you will save yourself some money.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“YDP142 or CLP470?”

Hi Graham,

Thank you for the Howard Score information which has been really valuable when considering a digital piano. The ebook has been brilliant too in helping to get to grips with the various features and jargon used by the various manufacturers.

I would like some advice and pricing information on two pianos.

I am about to turn 40 and the piano is to be a my birthday present, I have been without a piano for several years, but am looking forward to being able to practice whatever the time of day or night without disturbing neighbours or family!

I have been looking at yamaha digital pianos. I did my grade 6 practical as a teenager so am looking for something as authentic as possible, balanced against budget! I want to carry on progressing to more advanced pieces too. We also have two young girls who will no doubt be wanting to play the piano in a few years.

I have been looking at the YDP142 and the CLP470 and am somewhat torn.

The CLP470 is obviously more expensive, but offers a lot too. For someone at grade 6 looking towards 7, which would you recommend?

Many thanks

John

Reply/ Hi John

There is a vast difference in quality of tone and authenticity of touch between the YDP142 and CLP470.

The YDP142 is meant for beginners to intermediate level.

It only has a medium-weighted feel to the keys and the

sound is thin and weak due to its small speakers.

The CLP470 has large speakers and a superior sound sampling.

Its tone is much deeper and more resonant.

The CLP470 has a fully-weighted key touch. Its keys are also wooden. It feels just like playing a real piano. What’s more, the key touch is much more sensitive allowing you to play more advanced, technical pieces.

As a compromise between the two I recommend the CLP430 and CLP440. These don’t have the wooden keys, but they are both fully weighted and have a good piano tone.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“Yamaha Arius or Clavinova, which is better for me?”

Hi Graham

I’m in the market for a digital piano. I have decided to go with Yamaha and would welcome your views on the arius YDP series versus the clavinova series.

I played acoustic piano up to grade 5 many years ago and now am keen to give it another go. The most important things for me are the action and the ability to simulate an acoustic. I’m really not bothered about fancy sounds and gizmos.

I am tempted by the CLP 440 but then began to wonder if the arius YDP 181 or even the V240 would fit the bill

Thanks for your help

William

Reply/ Hi William

The Yamaha CLP440 is a far superior piano to the YDP181 and YDPV240…

The CLP440’s sound is much richer, fuller and more vibrant… the key touch is also heavier and firmer. You can control the dynamics so much better.

If you’re playing to grade 5 standard then you will enjoy playing the CLP440 so much more.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“YDP141, YDP161 or YDP181?”

Hi Graham,

thank you for the copy of your book, I found it very useful and no doubt will find it a useful reference in the future. I am looking at buying a digital piano for my daughter and maybe one day I might want to learn too.

She has only just started lessons and has been advised to practice between lessons. My initial thought was to buy a keyboard, purely because I didn’t want to spend a lot in case she didn’t continue learning, however, I started to think about the benefits of graded hammer action, etc and decided I might pay around £500 for a first piano.

I notice that the YDP141, YDP161 and YDP181 models are rated quite highly by yourself and the YDP141 and possibly the YDP161 are affordable if I buy through Amazon (fairly good prices; I can get 13months interest free credit and receive gift vouchers which equate to a further discount).

I’m not sure why I am attracted to these models but my problem is deciding how much do I wish to spend and therefore decide on which model to go for. If you could summarise the benefits of the higher spec models and whether the increase in price is justified through sound, feel and quality then I would be very grateful

Kind regards

Andy Slater

Reply/ Hi Andy

The Yamaha YDP161 is the best value out of the three models you selected.

The YDP141 is too basic. The key touch is fairly light and the sound is thin; this is due to its small speakers (only 2 x 6 watts).

With the YDP181 you are paying more for the additional features without any improvement in touch or tone.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“Which digital piano to buy?”

Hi Graham

I have read your 75 page booklet on which piano to buy and although it give great advice as I do not have a single musical bone in my body I could only follow on a purely technical basis.

However, my wife does have that musical gene and I have promised to buy her a digital piano for her graduation. My budget is around £2,000 and would probably push to £2,200.

Naturally I don’t want to spend any more than is necessary and she has indicated that she is mainly interested in the quality of the “Piano” and how it relates to an acoustic piano (in terms of sound, tactile and haptic feel – her words not mine).

You rate the following pianos:

CLP430 as 68.9 (£1,499)

CLP470 as 79.6 (£2,099)

CLP-S406 as 73.6 (£2,099) and the

CVP601 as 69.2 (£2,199)

From the descriptions of the pianos I can see very little difference in terms of the criteria that my wife has set, nor in terms of the specification (apart from more “voices”).

So I assume the rating you have given is down to a “feel” that you have when you have played them.

Can you please explain (in simple terms) why you have given the CLP470 the highest rating when the CVP601 does so much more and the “feel” appears to be the same?

And why I would choose the CLP470 over the CLP430 when I could save myself £500.

Thank you for all of your help.

Best regards

Chris

Reply/ Hi Chris

The Howard Score rates pianos purely on realism of sound and feel.

From your short list, the CLP470 feels and sounds the closest to a real piano.

The CVP601 costs more because of the vast array of features (bells and whistles) and functionality.

But it has an inferior key touch (same as the CLP430) and a weaker, less authentic sound. The CLP-S406 is a nice piano. But you do pay more for the upright piano cabinet design. It costs quite a bit more to produce this, hence the higher price.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“Is the Yamaha digital piano warranty transferable?”

Dear Howard

By the way, can the warranty on a Yamaha piano be transferred to a subsequent owner or must it apply solely to the original owner who must also provide an invoice for the original purchase (from an authorised dealer) – failing which any warranty claim will be rejected by Yamaha.

I have seen a number of private ads which boast “still under warranty” which I suspect is not actually true. At the end of the day surely Yamaha can decide these issues and there would appear to be little any subsequent buyer who has a warranty claim rejected on these grounds can do. Any thoughts?

Thanks

Regards

Peter Baker

Reply/ Hi Peter

The only information I could find is about the Yamaha YDP and P series pianos. On these the warranty is not transferable. A claim can only be claimed by the original purchaser.

I think it’s unlikely Yamaha would allow a transferable warranty on any of their pianos.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“I was wondering if you could give me some advice”

My Mum is looking at buying a new Digital Piano. She is 70 and it’s proving difficult to get around to look for anything. I was thinking of surprising her and just having one delivered to her. My problem is …. i’m not a musician and I don’t want to make a mistake. She has just moved to live with me and had to sell her 15yr old Yamaha Clavinova, i’m not sure of the serial.

So I’ve been reading some reviews on your website and I wondered if you could advise me of a way to go. She has bad arthritis in her hands so this is my major concern when thinking about any model. She loved being able to play with accompanying background beats and sounds. I was looking at 2 models, please please please could you give me some ideas.

The models I was looking at are …. Yamaha Arius YDP-V240 and the Clavinova CLP430. I have immediately looked at Yamaha as she was so happy for so many years with her Clavinova. If you would perhaps advise a different model then please can you describe to me why these 2 wouldn’t be good or why another model may be so much better. I very much appreciate your time in reading this …. and I hope so much you could help me make my Mum happy again for Christmas

Yours Sincerely, Alisdair

Reply/ Hi Alisdair

Well, the Yamaha CLP430 is a fine piano, but if your mum has arthritis in her hands then I advise getting something with a lighter weighted key touch.

The YDP-V240 would be OK, but you’re paying a lot more for this piano because of its many buttons and lights… not sure if your mum needs that?

If she does, then this would be a good choice.

Otherwise, if you just want to get her a nice piano with a few extra bells and whistles, nothing too fancy, then the Yamaha YDP162 or RP301 would be better for her.

They are similar pianos, but the Roland has a warmer, more resonant tone. This is the one I prefer playing.

Let me know if you would like more information.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“Do you think that the recent upgrades will be eventually incorporated on the CVP line?”

Hello Mr. Howard,

I wonder if you could help me make a decision.

I’m most interested in the newest Yamaha CLP-480, but originally i was looking for the CVP-509.

Do you think that the recent upgrades made on the CLP-480 (linear graded hammer, RGE, GP soundboard speakers) will be eventually incorporated on the CVP line in the near future?

Is it a matter of time or not?

Is it worth waiting for?

My priority is the piano sound quality, but i also like very much the features and the screen only present on the CVP line.

Best Regards,

Renée

Reply/ Hi Renee

I haven’t heard if Yamaha will be adding these features to the new CVP range. I’m not even sure when the new models will come out.

My guess is they probably will add these to at least the top 3 CVP models.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“YDP141 or CLP430?”

My sister has just bought an Yamaha YDP141 and I am wondering whether to do the same.

I was musical in my teens (Grade 5 piano, Grade 8 clarinet) and I am keen to pick things up again now. A bit too early to say if my children will be musical (aged 5 and 6) but would like to give them the opportunity, and who knows how far they will go.

I wonder whether I would appreciate the difference if I spent more money – say the CLP430? Piano will be in our lounge and we are open plan so the space is wider than my sisters room and we are detached. Headphones are important!

Would appreciate your comments

Esther

Reply/

Hi Esther

The Yamaha YDP141 is a nice all-round piano.

It has a decent sound and a medium-weighted key touch.

However, the CLP430 is a far superior piano in every way…

With the CLP430 you get a fully-weighted touch touch that has a lot more resistance on the keys.

You feel you’ve more control over the music you’re playing because the keys are firmer and more responsive.

Also, the CLP430 has a richer, more vibrant tone.

This is to do with better sampling, bigger speakers (2x 30 watts versus only 2 x 6 watts on the YDP141), better quality speaker system and larger cabinet.

The CLP430 is much closer to a real piano.

As far as grades go, the YDP141 is recommend up to grade 5. The CLP430 up to grade 7.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“YDP161 versus YDP181”

Dear Graham,

First, I would like to sincerely thank you for your digital piano buyer’s guide I downloaded a little more than 2 months ago. It definitively is a competently written compilation of excellent, impartial knowledge and advices and your willingness for sharing unconditionally all those good “stuff” is in your honour . I appreciate it so much that I now wish your opinion on one last point :

I am about to buy a digital piano for my 12 year-old-son. He is learning since last January and according to his teacher, he is so quickly progressing that she is expecting him passing his grade 3 exam before the end of this year, he is indeed a piano beginner but as a “born” musician, he has been playing other instruments since his early years (e.g. classical guitar and drums). He is a musically talented child and generally not a boy who quickly changes his mind and resigns so that I am willing to make some financial efforts to provide him with a good (new) piano.

However, I will not go further than £1200 as I already have other instruments in quite expensive maintenance (and other kids too! ). My second condition (for many reasons) being that the piano has to be a Yamaha, I was about to choose the YDP181 of this brand when I noticed that on the internet (beginning with your site) these is not at all reviewed or at least far much less than the cheaper YDP161. Therefore, as the YDP161 already seems to be a satisfying choice for my son, I wonder if the YDP181, as good as it surely is , is really the £300 difference worth. Unfortunately my confidence and knowledge in the matter are so low that I cannot sort it out by comparing the features .

My son’s teacher is unable to help as she is not familiar with digital and because we both live in a remote place in Wales, it is hardly possible to find a nearby shop where we could at least make a “sound” choice.

Of course, there are surely good reasons that justify the higher price of YDP181 but are they good for my purpose ? I mean, does 181 have something (other than gimmicks) that 161 does not, that my son could already NEED, or at least even remark and highly appreciate before he reaches, let’s says grade 8-10 ? Again, 181 still is in my possibility but the money I could save by buying 161 would be well needed elsewhere.

I will read carefully the answer I hope you will accept to give me, but please do not feel obliged to spend time in a long technical explanation. A yes or no for one of the pianos, according to the needs of a (well motivated and good) beginner will be OK and at the final term of 3 months of consideration, I will be able to take the decision my son is longing for.

I thank you very much.

Be sure of my kind and grateful regards.

Caroline

Reply/ Hi Caroline

Most of the extra money you pay for the YDP181 over the YDP161 is for the additional voices and features.

I wouldn’t say this is worth it.

Stick with the YDP161.

Alternatively you might consider either the Classenti CDP1 or Roland RP301.

These would both be excellent pianos for your son to learn and progress on.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“CLP480 or 440?”

Can u tell me whether it’s worth getting a yamaha 480 rather than a 440 if I am mainly going to play with headphones?

Is the pedal on the more expensive model better and worth getting?

Finally, are wood keys just no different to play?

Thanks for your help.

Simon

Reply/ Hi Simon

If you will mainly play with headphones then the CLP440 will sound just as good as the CLP480.

The key touch is slightly heavier on the CLP480.

This is mainly because of the wood. But the CLP440 still has a good key touch.

I recommend sticking with the CLP440. It’s just not worth spending so much more for a little gain.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“I was thinking of buying a Yamaha CLP 320 or 430 but which one?”

Hello Graham,

Thank you for your e book. It was most helpful. I have two daughters aged 4 and 5 yrs old who are just starting piano lessions. All their older cousins play and have their own piano (Yamaha Clavinova CLP range).

Having read around the various website, reviews and listened to their teacher and family members I was thinking of buying a yahama CLP 320 or 430 but which one. The CLP320 is now being phased out but I can get hold of a new one for £900 (Walnut). The CLP430 is the new model at £1300-£1400 but there is a delay until Feb 12 at earliest, although one of the online store recommended on your site says they have one. Is learning for the next 4-5 yrs for my children’s age going to be better with the new model or will the CLP320 suffice. Is the CLP430 that much more superior than the CLP320 for beginners etc.

Also can the CLP piano be moved as I will be moving home in 6 to 8 months time. From what I’ve read they do not need tuning.

You’re input would be most appreciated. Thank you.

Dan

Reply/ Hi Dan

The CLP430 has a slightly firmer key touch and a richer, more resonant sound than the CLP420…

But for the price difference, I recommend getting the CLP320 you saw available for £900.

It’s still a good piano.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“I got the impression from the Yamahas I tried out that they would all fall to bits”

Hello Graham,

My goodness, what a lot of information there seems to be about these instruments, though I really do appreciate that you have made the decision much easier than might otherwise be the case.

My situation is that my 1996 Technics has expired; my understanding is that it will not be possible to get it repaired reliably. I spent a couple of hours last week at Chappell’s and I don’t find any of the Yamahas (CLP 440 and M406 included) as powerful – especially in the deep bass – as my Technics (though I’m not sure what its amplification wattage was.) I tried a new Modus and didn’t like that either.

I liked my Technics better than any of the Yamahas at the Bromley shop we went to in 1996, and I don’t even now feel they measure up to it. I do recall that our ‘runner up’ was a Kurzweil, but you don’t seem to think much of them; the CUP2 in their range seems to have a pretty good specification. I am spending a morning early in March at Sheargold’s in Cobham to see what I think of the Kawais; if I find one I like, that will solve the problem. I am looking forward especially to trying their CA63 (output wattage 50×2 I gather.)

I teach classical piano, and my pupils range from Grade 1 to post-Grade 8. Frankly, I got the impression from the Yamahas I tried out that they would all but fall to bits if one tried to play the final pages of, say, the last of Rakhmaninov’s Preludes on them. Whatever I buy, it won’t be from a shop, but online.

Thank you for all the information you have compiled. It’s a much more complicated problem to replace my poor old Technics than I would ever have imagined! I really did find is as rewarding to play as many of the grands I have used, including Bechstein, Grotrian-Steinweg and Broadwood. It stood up to the most demanding physical demands, including the kind of assault on the keyboard prescribed by such composers as Liszt and some of his contemporaries.

Kind regards,

Greg

 

“What is the difference between CLP and YDP range?”

Yes very useful but I still can’t make a decision, the piano is for my grandson who plays a saxophone but said he would need to learn piano if he wanted to teach. I first thought I would get a secondhand one but was told a Yamaha Clavinova was the best. After reading your book I kind of still think that but I am thinking I maybe should get new. I intended spending up to £750 but realise I can’t get a new clavinova for that.

Can you tell me what is the difference between the clavinova and the YDP range?

Best Regards

Frances

Reply/ Hi Frances

The Clavinova range has a firmer, more sensitive and more realistic key touch to the YDP range.

The sound of the Clavinova is also markedly better.

This is due to the speaker system, speaker size, cabinet size and other minor factors.

The YDP range has a lighter feel to the keys.

Although this is OK to start on, I don’t recommend it for more advanced playing.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“Have you had any experience with the 400 series?”

Dear Graham

First of all, thanks a lot for your great newsletter.

I am in the process of buying a digital piano and had already decided on the Clavinova CLP 330. However, I just found out about the CLP 400 series, and now consider the 430 or 440. Have you had any experience with the 400 series?

Sound rather negative, so I am in two minds. Having studied on a baby grand, I would like to have the most authentic key touch.

Please help. Thank you.

Catalin

Reply/ Hi Catalin

The CLP400 series is very similar to the CLP300 series. Yamaha have hardly made any changes at all.

The CLP440 has a much nicer key touch than the CLP330.

It has synthetic ivory key tops and more resistance.

I wouldn’t be put off by just one short review.

There’s usually one or two bad reviews in amongst piles of great reviews… it just so happened that the first review on the site was a bad egg.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“The action is rather noisy”

We have a one year old Clavinova upright piano. The action is rather noisy and at least 3 notes sound out of tune. There is also a lack of sustaining power as compared with a acoustic piano. It does not lend itself to playing composers such as Debussy. We would look for an improvement on the Yamaha as a piano for playing classical music.

Andrew

 

Im a beginner and now i want to buy a new yamaha piano. Can you please tell me which is best between these two: YDP 141 and P155. I heard that GHS in YDP 141 is not really good and the difference about their amplifiers also make me confused. Thanks in advance!

Reply/ Hi Tony

The P155 and YDP141 are similar pianos.

The main difference is that the P155 is portable whilst the YDP141 is meant more for home use. If you want only Yamaha then I recommend looking at the YDP161.

This has much nicer piano sound than the YDP141. This is due mainly to the larger speakers.

The key touch on the YDP161 is also heavier.

This make it feel closer to playing an acoustic piano.

There are other – even nicer – pianos I could

recommend to you that aren’t Yamaha.

Let me know if you would like my recommendations.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

A couple weeks before I was interested in the CLP-340 model. Unfortunately, I just noted later on that this model has been discontinued. I have no problem that it become an older model, but the problem is that this model is no longer available in stock anymore here in Thailand.

They still have CLP-330 available for sale, but the sound is not as good as CLP-340 as I expected. The shop told me that CLP-430 will be available very soon, the specification is something in between the 330 and 340, unfortunately, the price is not in between. They quoted the price of 430 equal to the older model 340 which has better quality of amplifier/speak system(according to the specification). In addition, for the same price, I would get 340 with PE finished while the 430 will only have dark rose wood available for the same price.

Now I still cannot make decision what should I do next, kind of shock that 340 is not available anymore. I’m waiting to see the real 430 when it is available. Also I’m going to move to my new house in next few months, and I think that should be better time frame for me if I would buy a new big equipment into my home.

Sekson

 

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“Should I upgrade mine to the CLP-330?”

Hi Graham,

Many thanks for many of your helpful advices.

I’ve been learning piano for a year on the Yamaha CLP-320 by now. Recently I’ve tried the CLP-330 at a friend’s place and felt the differences. These digital pianos are made in Indonesia and sold within the South East countries (I reside in Malaysia). The price between the two is about GBP145.

Should I upgrade mine to the 330?

Looking forward to your say.

THANK YOU.

May

Reply/ Hi May

If you upgrade to the CLP330 you will feel a difference in the key touch and the sound.

But not a significant one.

I advise waiting a bit longer for the CLP440.

The CLP440 is much nicer to play. You’ll immediately hear and feel the difference.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

Hello Graham.

I was searching in the internet some information about digital pianos, and found your website. I’m thinking about learning piano, so I already have all the information about classes. But the major problem is… I need a piano!

I don’t have too much space in my apartment for a upright or a grand piano, and as

I’m starting now with the lessons, I don’t want the best piano of all, neither an expensive one. I just something reliable that allows me to practice at home. The advice some friends that play gave has no matter the brand of the piano, ensure it has “heavy” keys, more similar to the piano in which I take the classes.

Through out my search, I found 3 pianos in the range of price that want to spend:

Classenti CDP1, ARIUS Yamaha YDP 141, and Yamaha S31. I was planning to buy the Yamaha YDP 141, but then found some reviews claiming the keys where noisy and that the GHS keyboard wasn’t that good. After that I found the Classenti in your website and it seemed quite good.

So, my question is….. which of them do you think is best?

Best Regards, Marta

Reply/ Hi Marta

The Yamaha YDPS31 and YDP141 are both very basic pianos… Their key touch is not as heavy as the Classenti CDP1 or Yamaha’s CLP range. The speakers on the YDP141 are also very small (only 2 x 6 watts). This results in a thin, tinny sound.

The Classenti CDP1 would be a far better choice.

With the CDP1 you get a cleaner, more resonant sound. This is because of the superior sound sampling, the larger speakers (2 x 15 watts), and the position of the speakers.

But the most important aspect of the Classenti CDP1 is the heavy-weighted touch…

It feels very close to playing a real piano. And the 4 levels of sensitivity allow you to play over a wide range of dynamics.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

“CLP470 or CLP480?”

Hi Graham

Thank you for your mail. I haven’t bought the digital piano yet. I have been busy with work etc and haven’t made up my mind which piano to go to.

My daughter is going to start taking the piano lessons from next week onwards and feel there is no rush for me to get her piano immediately as she can practice on her key board for the time being.

Having said that, I have been looking around and gathering some information on digital piano. Could you please tell me is there any difference in sound quality and performance on rose wood colour piano compare to polished ebony ?

Yamaha CLP 480 seems good one but expensive!!! I am NOT sure it is worth investing huge sum of money On CLP 480. What do you think of Yamaha CL480?

Kind Regards,

Kumar

Reply/ Hi Kumar

The piano’s finish doesn’t affect the tone quality.

I don’t advise spending so much on the CLP480 for your daughter. The CLP480 has a marginally nicer tone that would be lost on anyone but an advanced level player.

The CLP470 would be just as good for her and will take her up to grade 8 anyway.

Please save your money.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

Hi Graham,

I’ve been reading your Digital Piano Buying Guide, and I’m getting to the point where I’d really like to make a decision. However, I’m struggling to decide how much I should pay.

I am a keen pianist – I passed my Grade 8 several years ago and, although I haven’t played properly for a few years now (I left home and no longer have access to a piano), I would like to buy a digital piano that feels as close as possible to a ‘proper’ acoustic piano (preferably a good one!).

The CLP320 is just about within my budget, but it only has GHS, rather than the GH3 of the CLP330. How much will I notice the difference, and is there anything else I should bear in mind?

I look forward to hearing from you,

Steph

Reply/ Hi Steph

The CLP330 does have a firmer feel to the keys.

Its extra weightiness makes it feel closer to playing on a real piano. This is its main advantage over the CLP320.

Of course, the sound is also richer, more vibrant.

So, all in all, the CLP330 is a superior piano to the CLP320.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

Hi Graham,

Thank you for your valuable advice… You seems to be suggesting that CLP330 is a better choice as compared to CLP320.

However, I also realised that CLP320 is perhaps the most popular digital piano in Yamaha. May I know the reason please?

Last but not least, some of my friends told me that getting a digital piano be it CLP320 or 330 will not last my kid beyond grade 3 and some even suggested that she will have to change to an acoustic piano after grade 1.

Please advise.

Regards

George

Reply/ Hi George

The CLP320 is more popular than the CLP330 because it’s cheaper.

The CLP330 has a firmer key touch. This is what you need to reach the higher piano grades.

The CLP330 would be OK up to grade 8. An acoustic piano does sound a lot better than any digital piano, but the feel of the keys is very similar to the CLP330. So it won’t hinder your child from progressing.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

Hello Graham

First of all may I thank you for your excellent book regarding buying a digital piano. I have not read it in detail yet but what I have seen I am really impressed with it – it is excellent.

I should like to ask you about a problem I have had with my Yamaha Clavinova, that of sticking keys. I’ll have to give you some background information:

I live here in Thailand and about five years ago I bought a second hand Yamaha Clavinova CLP 150. It was in excellent condition at the time and I have suspected that it was bought by someone who had then given up on playing!

After a year or two I started to experience the most annoying fault that of sticking keys. My local music shop were able to dismantle the piano and repair the affected keys. This has happened a couple more times over the years.

I have noticed that there is a You Tube video which describes how to make this repair – this makes me think that this is a common problem with Yamahas – do you know if it is?

I mentioned my location as Thailand – ordinarily if I was living in the UK by now I would have bought a replacement piano but the import duty here puts the price up by about 100%. I’m therefore persevering, at least for the time being with CLP 150.

Anyway, I look forward to any comment you might have.

Best regards

Steve

Reply/ Hi Steve

I’ve not heard of sticking key problems with the CLP150.

Maybe you can get a replacement key action from Yamaha.

Try calling Yamaha UK on 01908 366 700. They should be able to help you or put you in touch with someone that can.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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Hi,

I was wondering if you know if Yamaha will be bringing out a new series of the Clavinova Digital Piano soon?

You mention that usually 2 to 3 years this happens, the CLP 320 was introduced in 2008 I believe.

Just wanting to know if I should buy the CLP 320 now or perhaps wait a small time if a newer version is on the cards.

Many Thanks

Alistair

Reply/ Hi Alistair

It’s possible they may bring out some new models early in 2011.

There is no news yet. I suspect Yamaha keep this information quiet for as long as they can 🙂

If you need a piano now then just go ahead and get the CLP320. Usually nothing major really changes with the new models anyway.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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Hi Graham

I was searching for the CLP340 on the gear4music website (as you recommended it for good prices and service for yamaha) with the intention of purchasing, and I saw the S306. This model was rated highly in your book (and ranked above the CLP340) but had previously discounted it due to the high price. Gear4music however seem to be doing a good deal on it. The price for the CLP340EB is £1693 and the S306EB is £2157.

Looking at the specs on the Yamaha website, the 2 models are very similar, the CLP340 being slightly better on paper. The CLP340 has 4 stage sampling as opposed to 3 on the S306. The CLP340 also has stereo sustain and key off samples which isn’t listed on the S306. The main advantage of the S306 that I have found is that it’s a little slimmer and taller (which would be useful), however I don’t feel it’s worth the extra for this alone. To make matters more confusing, when looking for reviews for the S306

I came across the Classenti CD3 which is a suggested alternative. But this model is only £1295!

I am really confused now and was hoping you could shed some light on it!

My priorities are (in order of importance)

1. Sound

2. Feel

3. Look (because it’s going in the front room!)

4. Build Quality

5. Value for money (I don’t mind spending the extra as long as it’s worth it!)

Hope you don’t mind me emailing you again!

Tristan

Reply/ Hi Stephen

You are correct in what you say about the CLP340 and S-306. The CLP340 should rank higher than the

S-306 due to its better functionality (although I don’t take this into consideration in the ratings) and value for money.

I had overlooked the value for money aspect on the CLP340 and have since adjusted its ranking.

Thank you for pointing that out!

The differences between the CLP340 and S-306 are purely to do with functions…

The touch is the same on both pianos. And the sound is very similar. There is just a little difference in tone between the two pianos. This

is mainly due to placement of the speakers. But it’s hardly noticeable really.

Here’s the differences between the Yamaha CLP340 and the CLP-S306:

1) The CLP340 has 4 stage sampling as opposed to 3 on the S306

2) The CLP340 has stereo sustain and key off samples. The CLP-S306 doesn’t

3) The CLP340 has 14 voices with a further 14 variations. The CLP-S306 has the same voices, but no variations

4) The CLP340 has the split function. This allows you to split the keyboard into two different voices.

For example: You can select piano for the right hand, and string bass for the left hand. And you decide where you want the sound to split. The

CLP-S306 doesn’t have this feature either As far as the Classenti CDP3 goes, it has a really nice piano sound. Perhaps more piano-like and mellow than the Yamaha sound…

But it’s not as well built as the Yamaha. And some of the individual notes sound a little uneven.

I do hope Classenti improve this aspect, because it’s a really lovely piano to play. And fabulous value for money.

If you’re anything but an advanced or professional player (or apsire to be) then the Classenti CDP3 would certainly be an excellent choice.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

Further comments/ Hi Graham

Thanks for replying so quickly and for clearing up the differences between the two Yamaha models. I’m glad you didn’t think it was a daft question! The Classenti is tempting, but by the sound of it the Yamaha CLP340 is worth the few extra hundred. I’m a classroom music teacher and have a clavinova (CLP150) in my department which has stood up to hard use very well! I also have a 17 year old Roland electric piano in school – the sounds aren’t great and the keys are plasticy, but it’s still going! The one I’ve been seeking advice on is for my house which will have a lot easier life than the ones at school! 🙂

Anyway, thanks for your help. I’ll let you know how I get on!

Tristan

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Hello Graham,

This is a fantastic service you’re offering – the digital piano market is so confusing and diverse.

Anyway – here’s my question. My mother thinks she’s like to upgrade her Clavinova. She has a CLP-130 purchased in 2003. Her desire is to improve the realism of the sound and touch over her current DP. The local Yamaha dealer has advised her that she’ll get a significant improvement in sound quality and touch by going to a CLP-330.

I’m not totally convinced. Based on the specs, I’d say she might get a noticeable step up by going to a CLP-340 , but even then, I’m not sure it’s worth it and wondered if you had an opinion on the value of this ‘upgrade’. Do you have any other suggested makes/models? Priorities are

piano sound and touch realism (not bells and whistles like tons of voices, recoding, USB…), nice (traditional) appearance, middle range price point.

Regards,

Brian

Reply/ Hi Brian

The CLP130 was a nice digital piano. And, assuming it’s been looked after (which I’m sure it has), still plays very nicely…

Exchanging for a brand new equivalent model (this would be the CLP330) wouldn’t give your mother anything significantly better.

Sure, the CLP340 is a better piano. It has a richer, stronger, fuller piano sound. The key touch is also slightly surer (firmer) than the CLP330. All in all, it feels closer to a real piano.

But is it worth the extra money your mother would have to fork out?

I would say probably not…

She might get £500 or £600, or £650 at a push if she sold the CLP130 privately.

A dealer would offer her less – even in part exchange.

This would leave at least £800 left to pay for a better piano.

If the CLP130 is still working fine then my advice is to keep hold of it for now.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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Hi Graham,

Excellent info on your website for purchasing electric pianos! I’ve got a few questions if you’ve got some time:

1. In general, how do the piano sounds compare between the Yamaha CVPs and CLPs? The CVPs have some additional functionality but I wouldn’t want to give up the quality piano sounds/feel of the CLPs.

2. I’m wondering how you rate the Nord pianos wrt something like the Yamaha CLP340? I realize the Nord is a stage piano so it has no built in speakers (?) but aside from that, what do you think?

cheers,

Fred

Reply/ Hi Fred

The Yamaha CVP501 and CVP503 have an inferior sound and less realistic key touch to the equivalent in the CLP range.

You’re paying more for the versatility of the CVP; the vast array of instrumental voices, effects, rhythms, and percussion.

The CVP pianos also have much larger cabinets. So if space is an issue, you’d be better off with the CLP range.

The nord doesn’t have as good a touch as the Yamaha CLP340.

The CLP340 is a superior piano all round.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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Yesterday I went to look at Clavinovas and while the agent was demoing a CVP 403 using mega voices, some of the notes didn’t play (or dropped out, no sound) when the key was pressed. The dealer just called me a few minutes ago to say that Yamaha told him that all CVP Clavinovas have this same drop out situation when using mega voices.

Sam

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I’d like to ask a few questions, I’d be grateful for any feedback.

1. In Yamaha’s current Clavinova range, which is the nearest to being equivalent to the older model CLP150 (circa 2004)? The CLP150 had sympathetic string resonance.

2. Is it true that Yamaha’s Clavinova after-sales and spares supply services in the UK are not so good as they used to be?

3. Do any digital pianos offer a temperament option which is the one specified by J.S. Bach on the title page of The Well Tempered

Clavier? Which is the closest of the Clavinova options to that specification?

Regards, Paul

Reply/ Hi Paul

The CLP340 and CLP370 would be the closest to the CLP150.

I would put the CLP150 somewhere in between the two.

Yamaha has gone through some changes recently. They’ve moved their production of digital pianos to Indonesia.

The quality is still good, but it does appear to have dipped a little since their move. I don’t have any information about their spares service.

What makes you worried about obtaining spare Yamaha parts?

The different temperament option might be available on the high end CVP range… but I’m not certain of this.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

Further/ Thanks for your comments. The background to my querying whether Yamaha’s spares and after-sales service had declined is as follows:

Last year I was in communication with a retired electronic musical instrument technician who had temporarily come out of retirement as a favour to a previous employer. He said he had waited months for a set of Clavinova contact strips to be sent from Japan and that even after that wait it was sent incomplete. He said that in earlier times yamaha would have had the parts with him in a day or two.

‘Yamaha isn’t the company it used to be’, he said. He said that Yamaha used to have a spares depot in the UK at the Kemble factory but this had now gone with the closure of the factory. He said there were rumours that yamaha were going to replace the UK Clavinova depot with one in Belgium.

Anyway, I’m reassured to an extent by your not knowing of any decline but I’m sure you’ll understand why a prospective Clavinova purchaser might be worried.

Regards, Paul

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Hi Graham,

many thanks for sending the link to your piano buyer’s book.

I’ve read it and really enjoyed it – it was an education…!! Hope you don’t mind i’ve got just a few questions.. firstly – i’ll give you a bit of background to what i already have.

I’ve played piano since i was about 8 (now 43!)

I have a yamaha upright piano -which i’m very happy about.

I’d like to buy a yamaha digital piano (fun piano) – and i’ve been looking through the range. according to your website the CLP range are designed to sound like real piano’s!!

I don’t really need that – as i’ve already got a piano.

The CVP series – Clavinova – are the ones with all the bells and whistles on it – and really would be for having fun on!

to be honest – that’s what i’m really looking for.

I see that the CLP has limited voices etc.. – but they mostly concentrate on being a digital piano (if I’m reading you right!) so my question is i’ve looked at the CVP range – and from all of them – i’m kind of drawn to the CVP 503.

you have it at just under £3k.

I did look at the 501 – about £1k cheaper – but i’m not too sure what the main differences are..

i see that it does have smaller output 2 X 20 compared to 2 x 40 (on the 503) given what i’ve said Graham, and my situtation – is it worth spending that little extra on the 503? Is the 501 any good – or am I missing another brand which would be better or i’d get more for my money.

I must admit – i am a yamaha fan – as I do think they are class! but i’m open to suggestions. Look forward to hear what you think..

and thanks in advance for your time…

Best wishes

Fraser

Reply/ Hi Fraser

It does seem that the Yamaha CVP range is the one for you…

The CVP503 has a slightly better sound, and a firmer, more realistic touch than the CVP501. But it’s only marginally better.

I would say go for the CVP501.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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My review was 5 stars and as follows:

Professional Advice Across the World.

As I am a novice in the world of digital pianos, I really appreciate coming across Graham’s online advice, and also the opportunity to receive his emails.

I was steered away from a couple of brands I may have considered.

I have purchased my Yamaha digital piano now, and I am thrilled and very happy with it.

Thank you

Jan Brne

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Hi Graham,

thanks so much for your guide to buying a digital piano. I found it incredibly interesting and useful. I believe I have more or less decided, after reading your recommendations along with other internet reviews and also having now tried one out in a shop, to go with a Yamaha CLP 340. You place the CLP 370 three places above the CLP 340 in your top 20 pianos above £1000 list, may I ask what are the main reasons you had for this?

I haven’t decided where to buy from yet but probably from one of the main internet sites. Do you have an opinion on the online store ‘SoundsLive’? Also, is there a particular dust cover that you recommend for this model? The one on your guide doesn’t seem to be designed for the 340.

I do have a couple more questions if that is alright. I note that Thomann offer the T.bone HD800 as part of a digital piano set. Do you have an opinion on which headphones are best for digital pianos? Is there a noticeable difference between models that you have noticed?

Also, does this model always come with a matching stool that you know of? Some places seem to charge extra for one and some say that it is included.

Thanks again,

Joe O’Grady

Reply/ Hi Joe

The CLP370 is rated higher than the CLP340 because:

(1) It has wooden keys.

I don’t find this improves the touch, but physcologically, if you’re used to playing an upright or grand piano, it does improve the experience.

(2) The CLP370 also has a sturdier and more impressive cabinet.

(3) The quality of sound – especially in the bass – is slightly better. This is to do with the speaker positioning and acoustics of the cabinet.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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Hi Graham,

thanks for your email. Im currently considering a Yamaha CLP 340 since it is on sales. I have tried on the piano myself and is quite satisfied with most of the functions. I have a few questions which I would like you to advise before I make my final decision.

1) Is it worthed getting the CLP 340 at the sales price of 2599 SGD (1300 pounds)? Other models I have considered is CLP 330 (1950 SGD) and CLP 370 (3999 SGD). CLP 380 is way out of my budget (5000+ SGD)

2) Is there a big difference between rosewood and polished ebony? Im actually deciding between the two. The difference in price between the 2 is about 600 Singapore dollars which translates to roughly 300 pounds. What would you recommend?

3) I understand that the number of levels of AWM is one of the crucial factors I should consider. The CLP 340 has 4 levels. Is that sufficient in terms of playing music across a wide genre (e.g. classical, pop etc)?

4) In terms of maintainability, are there any particular issues I should take note of? (e.g. not to put near window etc)What are the delicate parts that are likely to be damaged? How long can a digital piano typically last?

5) I foresee that I might be arranging some of my furnitures after the current house renovation. What is the proper way if I have to shift the piano around the house without damaging it?

Thanks in advance and look forward to your replies!

Yours pianistically

Hin

Reply/ Hi Hin

The price for the CLP340 is really good. I would go with that.

There’s really no major advantage to go for the CLP370.

There is no difference in sound between the rosewood and the polished ebony.

It’s best to keep the piano out of direct sunlight or too near a heat source.

The piano is light enough for two people to carry around.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

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Question/ Hello,

My name is Gloria and I live in a small southern city in the U.S. I am contemplating purchasing a digital piano and today went to a dealer who sells the Roland brand. I have been trying to research this digital but can find no really good comparisons on the web between this piano and the Yamaha, Casio, et al. Would you be so kind as to offer your opinion on these pianos. I have an acoustic piano and am getting along in years. I play for my own enjoyment but have granddaughters and thought that they might really enjoy the digital. An comments from you would be greatly appreciated. I enjoyed reading your comments about pianos.

Thank you.

Gloria Dugger

Senoia , GA USA

Answer/Hi Gloria

Personally I prefer the sound and touch of the Yamaha Clavinova. The Roland is a decent digital piano, but I think that the Yamaha feels closer to playing the real thing.

Further comments from Gloria/

I have definitely decided on the Yamaha, primarily because of your recommendation. Today I visited a friend who has a Yamaha Clavinova and I was very pleased with the sound and especially the touch. My father purchased a Chickering studio console for me when I was 14 years of age and so I very much want the digital to approximate that of a real piano. Thank you again for taking the time to answer my inquiry. Cheers, Gloria Dugger

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Hi Graham, this is Barry here.

I still haven’t managed to buy a piano yet! My daughter has now started learning, so the issue is more urgent than before.

Originally, I was looking for a stage piano which had a good piano sound, a good real piano-like action, and also had strings and other “pad”-like voices. I tried a Yamaha P155(?) in a local store and nearly bought it, because I liked the look of the instrument, and thought the sounds were quite good, though the action was a bit “lumpy”.

However, delays set in and when I went back to the shop recently, the P155 had been sold and only an entry-level stage Yamaha was available, and I didn’t care much for its appearance, tone or action. I was advised that the P155 is now obsolete.

The sales guy was encouraging me to buy a piano in the CLP range, because he said the speakers made a much better sound than the small ones in the stage piano. However, he also said that the P155’s sound wasn’t anywhere near as good as the CLPs, or even the YDP141 because of the speakers, whereas I saw on a website that the P155 sound samples were the same as those in the CLP 340!

I quite liked the CLP 330 and 340 (which were priced at £1499 and £1799, respectively) – the instruments looked quite nice, and the tone, in the bass especially, was really life-like.

I’ve also just visited a “real” piano shop, where there was a range of uprights from around £2000 to about £6,500, and some small grands from £5,500 to £9,500. Trouble is, I liked the sound of the more expensive pianos!!

So, I don’t know whether to go for a CLP 340 (or 330), whether to look for a P155 that might still be available somewhere, or whether to wait until we find out what if any new Yamaha digitals are coming out after April, when I understand they are bringing out their new range.

Hope this is of interest. As before, any advice would be welcome.

Best wishes, Barry

Reply/ Hi Barry

The Yamaha P155 is still a current model.

What the salesman was saying is correct.

Thespeakers in the CLP range are bigger. The size and placement of the speakers enhances the sound of the piano. This actually makes a BIG difference to the sound.

I’ve yet to hear which new models are coming out and which ones are being replaced in April.

If you want a decent piano for your home then I recommend going for the Yamaha CLP340.

The CLP340 is one of the best digital pianos available at the moment. And it costs a lot less than the top end Rolands and Kawais.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

 

Hi Graham,

By all means you are welcome to use my comments on your website. As you know, we all are restricted to sampling only those pianos that are in our immediate area unless we’re willing to travel. It’s prophetic that you suggested the CLP320.

Yesterday I found another store and spent some time trying the CLP330 and 340.

I was quite impressed with the sound funneling through 2 x 40 watt speakers in the 340, the great MIDI/USB capabilities and the extra feel of the GH3 keys with the synthetic ivory keytops. I admit these extras inflate the final pricing. But I feel confident that if I choose the CLP340 I will be happy that I spent the extra cash for something that should provide years of enjoyment.

Sincerely,

Bill Lewis

 

Hi Graham,

Thank you for your email recommending digital pianos.

You’re right, the Yamaha CLP 320 is a little out of my price range, but I’ve had a look at it and am rather taken by it. I also tried the CLP 430 which I thought was better still.

Do you think it is worthwhile waiting to see if I can get one second hand? Also, do you think that the 430 is worth the extra money?

Thanks again for your help,

Charlotte.

Reply/ Hi Charlotte

The new model CLP430 is coming out soon, so there may be some bargains around for the CLP320.

Many shops will want to clear their display models, so it is worth phoning around.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

Hi,

I’m looking to upgrade my Yamaha stage piano P80. I use it at home to accompany my choir so it needs to be portable and powerful enough for a small hall or church. The P80 doesn’t have inbuilt speakers so it would be nice to have less “clutter” to carry, even if I do need to supplement it with a smallish amp. What is your opinion of the P250? – it looks quite heavy but the sequencing capacity could be useful.

Thanks in anticipation,

Nicky

Reply/

Hi Nicky

The Yamaha P250 is not available anymore. Besides…

I never liked it.

The sound was not very good and it was just too large to carry around. It was a monster!

There are some nice stage pianos around these days.

Take a look at either the Yamaha P85 or Roland FP7.

Both have built-in speakers and offer a good sound and touch.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

Futher comments/

Thanks Graham, that’s really helpful. I thought the P250 looked rather heavy!

One more question: apart from the built-in speakers, what are the advantages of the P85 over the older P80 that I already have? I quite like the touch and sound of the P80 and am wondering whether to just get a better quality, lighter amp – I believe Roland do a smallish keyboard amp that might be suitable?

All the best,

Nicky

Reply/ Hi Nicky

The Yamaha P80 was a fantastic piano!

I think you should keep this and just buy a decent Roland keyboard amp. Either the KC60 or KC150.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

Hi Graham

Just an e-mail to thank you for your excellent advise. I did get the Yamaha P85, but as my eldest daughter is very picky about the sound, I was concerned that it might not get used alot. How wrong could I be, both my daughters seem to actually prefer the Yamaha over the traditional piano as it doen’t go out of tune at all and it has more options on it.

Thanks again

Best wishes

Anna

Hi,

I’m looking to buy a digital piano to learn on, and for my budget it looks like the SDP-131 or P-95 models by Yamaha would be best. If I don’t need to take the piano gigging (which I don’t), should I opt for the SDP? Is the sound quality / keyboard action better? Or is there a better beginner’s model out there?

Your site has been very useful while I’ve been trying to make sense of this complex market – thank you!

Best wishes,

Chris

Reply/

Hi Chris

I recommend you buy the Yamaha YDP141. This is the replacement for the YDP140.

The sound is slightly better than the P85. The touch is as good.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

Further comments/

Hi Graham,

Thank you for your recommendation of the YDP141. Since I wrote to you,

I have also come across the YDP-S31, and was wondering whether you had any thoughts on that – I cannot find any information that tells me how it differs from the YDP141/140 etc. It is not a portable model, and it is a similar price, so do you know what the difference is?

Thanks again,

Chris

Reply/ Hi Chris

I wouldn’t consider the Yamaha YDP-S30. I don’t like it at all. The touch is false and too springy on the up-stroke.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

Hi Graham,

My sincere compliments with your website, I’ve really enjoyed it (and stil do). And the same goes for your lessons and information for beginners.

Because I’m on the look out for a piano, I’ve also read the review on yamaha digital pianos. Pff, so many choices and possibilities….I’ll like to do some research, but I’ve found myself rather lost in the forrest of the various brands. Would it be possible for you to give me some directions what specific types/series of the Clavinova are recommendable. I’m just a beginner, so, I think, my wishes for a piano are fairly modest: I would like a full piano keyboard with a nice sound/touch. I don’t need much digital extra’s or the newest gadgets.

I’m from the Netherlands, and as you obviously can see English is not my first language. I do my utmost, but nevertheless I’ll appologize for the inevitable language errors.

Kind regards,

Ellen Beringen

the Netherlands

Reply/ Hi Ellen

The Yamaha CLP320 or the new Yamaha YDP141 will be a good choice for you.

The CLP320 has a better sound and touch over the YDP141.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

Dear Graham Howard

After visiting Japan recently I looked at a “YDP-223c” Digital Piano and beautiful it was too.

Do you know if it is available in the UK and who is the supplier ?

Regards

John R Lowry

Reply/ Hi John

The Yamaha YDP-223 is not available in the UK. It is primarily a US product.

The pianos to watch out for are the Yamaha YDP141 and YDP161.

The YDP141 will probably replace the YDP140 and the YDP160 is a more powerful piano with a higher spec; bigger and warmer piano sound and more realistic touch.

I guess it’s similar to the YDP-223 you’ve seen in Japan.

I’ll be reviewing (quite extensively) both the YDP141 and YDP161 fairly soon. Keep an eye out on the ukpianos.co.uk

for more information.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

Hi, I’m looking to buy a digital piano. I’m grade 7 standard at the moment and am looking to progress further. I would like a digital piano that sounds and feels like an acoustic one (and one who’s pedals work like the real thing) or as close as you can get to one. I’m not that interested in all the ‘bells and whistles’ that you get. My price range is under £1000 and preferably around the £500-£600 mark.

I’ve looked at the Yamaha Clavinova CLP-220 and the Yamaha YDP-131 but the Clavinova is quite expensive, and I was wondering if you could reccommend me a digital piano that fits this specification.

Thank you,

Michelle

Reply/ Hi Michelle

From what you’re looking for in a digital piano, there is only one that I recommend, the Classenti CDP2.

This piano has a nice, realistic tone and the touch is at least as good as the Yamaha.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

Further comments/

I have one query about the digital piano that your recommended – everywhere I’ve read, I’ve been told it’s a beginners piano. Is this accurate?

Reply/ Hi Michelle

The Classenti CDP1 digital piano has been designed with the needs of the beginner in mind.

The CDP1 and CDP2 pianos are not just for beginners. Intermediate to advanced level pianists will still be very happy to play on this piano.

The quality of sound and touch is even better on the CDP2. You might prefer to choose this one instead.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

Hi Graham,

I was wondering if you can give some advice on buying a digital piano. I have never played but I always wanted to.

I am looking at Yamaha YDP 141 and Yamaha CLP 430 and less probably clp 440.

Is the 430 justify the price diference compared with 141? is the gh on 430 so much better than the standard touch on 141? or is it worth to upgrade from clp 430 to clp 440 for gh3 touch?

Many thanks,

Lucian

Reply/ Hi Lucian

The first thing I advice you is not to spend too much money.

There is absolutely no point in spending extra money on a Yamaha CLP440 — or even a CLP430.

The YDP141 is an OK starter piano and has a graded hammer action, touch sensitive keys, a nice touch and realistic piano sound…

What more could you ask for?

Regards,

Graham Howard

Hi Graham,

Your advice is based on the fact I have never played ?

Reading in the forum on your site I have noticed you like Clavinova clp 430 followed by YDP 141. So the difference in touch it is not that significant for a beginner?

Thank you,

Lucian

Reply/ Hi Lucian

All I’m saying is that a beginner would probably not notice the difference in touch between the YDP141 and CLP430.

The sound IS better on the CLP430 and I do rate it as a better piano. It all comes down to what you are preprared to pay for your first piano.

Regards,

Graham Howard

Dear Graham

After reading your advertisment on your website, I have a few questions which I hope you wil be so kind to answer.

For some time I have been looking for a quality digital piano, which should be a nice furniture as well. ( I already have a quality Roland stage piano)

1 ) The Yamaha CLP 265 GP is what I think I can afford, but what is the big differens between this piano and the Yamaha GT2 ( except from the price which is marked in Denmark)

2) When I look at your web, CLP 265GP come up with 2 differnt prices: 2080.80£ – and another, about 200£ more.

What is the real price incl. shipping to Denmark?

3)- and do you have any experience with tax and custom from UK to DK, which you could communicate to me.

In other words: how much should I pay altoghter before the piano is ready to play in my room 🙂

4) And last. Is it possible to hide the buttons and mechanism with the lid, like on the cheaper Yamaha models.? (You drow the lid out in half possition). I want a piano to look like a piano- not a mechanic tool.

My English vocabulary and spelling is limitid. I hope you understand, and ythat I don’t take too much of your time.

Regards

Erling Jakobsen

Reply/ Hi Erling

The current price for the CLP265GP is £2226 including delivery to Denmark.

I believe you can cover the control panel with the lid.

The GT2 is no longer available.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

Dear Graham,

As most people I’m a first time digital piano buyer and have a question.

As far as I understand it the CLP-240 is better in following areas:-

The weight grading of the CLP-240 is GH3 instead of just GH.

The sampling of the CLP-240 is dynamic (i.e. depending on how hard you press a key a different sample is used).

To me it seems that this should give a more realistic feel and sound.

Are you saying that the difference is not noticeable or just not worth the extra money?

Like you, I’m not concerned about ‘extras’ but am more concerned about getting a more realistic feel and sound out of the piano especially the ability to produce more subtle nuances and expressions of sound.

Although we’re all beginners in my family we would not want to have to replace the piano after a few years because suddenly we become more attuned to its’ shortcomings’.

Currently I’m looking at buying one of following:-

CLP-240 – GH3 grading + dynamic sampling

CLP-270 – GH3 grading + dynamic sampling + iAFC accoustics

I guess my next step should be to find a piano store and compare them in real life.

Would you agree that Yamaha digital pianos are still the best at the moment in recreating the most accurate feel and sound of a real piano or should I also include other brands in my quest?

Thanks and regards,

Ruud Mantingh

Reply/ Hi Ruud

You bring up some valid points here.

It is true to say that the sound and touch is slightly better as you go up the range.

But..

The difference is so slight that buying a more expensive model should be because you want the added instrumental voices, rhythms etc.

NOT really because of a better sound and touch.

The touch and sound on the CLP220 is good enough for any player – no matter what their standard.

All these GH3 grading, dynamic sampling, iAFC accoustics are fancy terms to SELL you a more expensive piano – which any shop will be happy to do 😉

It’s not worth it!

I practiced for my grade 8 on the basic Yamaha Clavinova (15 years ago). It did me well.

To wrap it up, yes I still believe that Yamaha digital pianos offer the best sound and touch.

No point in looking at other makes.

Yours pianistically,

Graham Howard

Further comments/

The thing is, I’ve just spoken with my son’s piano teacher and she recommends to go for as high within the CLP range as my budget allows. She obviously feels that the better touch and sound will help him in switching between Clavinova and her acoustic grand that she teaches on.

However, I must admit that the price hikes between models seem too high to justify the benefits (especially between the CLP-270 and CLP-280 where you almost pay £500 more for the privilege of having wooden keys!).

I still have some more thinking to do 🙂

Regards,

Ruud Mantingh

I am glad to finally find a website that offers good digital piano buying advice. I am looking at YDP-213, YDP-223 and P140 and would like your opinion on which one is the best of all? Meaning which one has the most piano sound and feel?

I am gravitating towards YDP223 and wanted to know if there will be better brands in that price range?

Thanks a lot for your time, Lalitha

Hi Lalitha, I believe the Yamaha YDP-213 and YDP-223 have been discontinued. The latest model is the YDP-131.

The Yamaha YDP131 or Yamaha CLP220 are the best digital pianos in the low to mid-end price bracket.

The P140 has a poor sound and touch. The only way to improve the sound quality is to hook it up to an amp – which rather defeats the object of having a compact and easy-to-move piano.

Regards,

Graham Howard

I’ll tell you why I’ve been investigating piano lessons. I’m coming up to retirement and I’d like to learn the piano purely for my own satisfaction. I’m trying to decide if this is feasible for a sixty year old and if it is, what sort of piano would I look for and do I need personal lessons or is teach yourself from the internet better. I’ve looked at the Rocket piano website and it looks a bit American for my taste but it does seem to feature in most recommended lists. I’ve been thinking about a Yamaha Clavinova

regards, Alan

Hi Alan

You are completely right about the Rocket Piano course – it is ‘a little bit American’. BUT, nevertheless, it is the best ‘complete’ piano course available at the moment.

It is nice to hear that you want to take up the piano as you near retirement. It seems that more and more people are learning piano around this of their life. I can’t think of ANY hobby that offers such a sense of fulfillment and joy.

As far as choosing a digital piano goes. A Yamaha Clavinova is definitely the BEST CHOICE.

The model I recommend is the Yamaha CLP220. The CLP220 is

BY FAR the most popular digital piano today.

You might also want to read an article I wrote (if you haven’t already) about the different digital piano makes and what

I think about them.

Regards, Graham Howard

Hi Graham. I was thinking of changing my Yamaha Clavinova 206 but having read your article doesnt seem to be much better out there than i have. I have had the piano for 4 years now did I read somewhere they go out of tune,or is it just real pianos. I must say some cords you have to play sound really awfull unless its just my bad playing.

Charles Grimmer.

Answer/ Hi Charles — GREAT QUESTION!

Digital pianos cannot go out of tune because the sound you hear when you press a key is a digital recording of an acoustic piano.

It sounds like you have sensitive hearing. This is a possible reason that the chords sound awful to you. When a piano is tuned, the intervals between notes are not perfect — this is known as equal temperament.

The unison and octave are the only intervals that are tuned perfectly, the fourths and fifths are tuned slightly flat and the thirds and sixths tuned sharp. Your sensitive hearing is probably picking up the higher harmonics of the thirds and sixths. Being an ex piano tuner, I notice that these harmonics (or overtones) are more prominent in digital pianos.

Regards,

Graham Howard